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I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by maxglute »

RobertRoberts wrote: post #346

I have a close relationship with a Chinese national that is going through the US immigration process. His view on situations like this are enlightening. He knows the difference between true dictatorships and political wranglings in the news. No system is perfect, and bad things happen to good people every day. In this circumstance, it looks like this person didn't follow all the appropriate rules related to the enter…

> treatment in his home country would be considerably worse.

If you enter PRC on bad VISA you chill at the airport transit area and deported on next available flight. None of this for profit multi week detention to milk ICE contracts.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by neves »

vlovich123 wrote: post #389
swat535 wrote: post #269

Earlier quoted context omitted.

New America? I beg to differ. The United States has always been hostile to outsiders—what’s different now is that they’re not even trying to hide it. As a naturalized Canadian, crossing the U.S. border has always been a frustrating ordeal. Despite holding a valid Canadian passport, I’m routinely subjected to an extra hour of “security” questioning. Maybe I’m just unlucky. Or maybe it’s because I was born in an "undes…

Was traveling to the US that fraught before 9/11? I think people forget just how much 9/11 damaged the national psyche which to me honestly explains things like Trump.

Does it mean that Al Qaeda won?

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by genewitch »

cratermoon wrote: post #380
MisterTea wrote: post #327

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I knew a guy in my early 20's, not white, who wanted to be a cop. Once he told me "If I have a bad day, everyone gonna have a bad day." I dont talk to him anymore because he became a cop and turned into a fucking asshole.

ACAB

"The bishop's smile, a gilded, hollow thing, hides taxman's greed, and whispers of the king; the knight's sworn oath, a rusted, broken chain, while village elders plot for whispered, selfish gain; no judge's word, nor lord's decree rings true, in thirteen twelve, what's left for us to do?"

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by freehorse »

LPisGood wrote: post #399
freehorse wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This whole situation -coupled with the outright bans or obstacles in giving visas to people from several countries- cannot but have unpredictable consequences. For example, right now, I cannot imagine any big academic international conference keep taking place in the US. And if they do, they should get boycotted. US right now is neither accessible nor safe for foreign citizens. And I bet recruiting or holding to high…

> For example, right now, I cannot imagine any big academic international conference keep taking place in the US. I’m not sure what area you work in, but there are still many in computer science and optimization.

Which were already planned. And still, right now increasingly more people cannot go or wont go to them. Let's see after this summer how things are gonna go.

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Post by comte7092 »

rayiner wrote: post #165
drumhead wrote: post #22

If the objective is to scare people off from going to the USA, then they're doing a magnificent job. I've heard other cases of people with green cards being arrested and put in terrible conditions, with absolutely no reason given. This woman was ready to go back home and not enter the US, but instead she was dragged through hell and only released because she was Canadian. All those with different passports get subjec…

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The only option is to pursue draconian “enforcement” on people who enter through ports of entry following the established legal process?

Let’s not kid ourselves here, it’s not nor has it ever been about “illegal” immigration, it’s immigration in general.

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Post by metabagel »

kragen wrote: post #416
greggyb wrote: post #237

Why is this flagged? First of all, it's about an entrepreneur traveling to the US for a startup, which is directly relevant to a significant proportion of YCombinator founders themselves. Beyond its direct relevance to the core founding audience of HN, it is not clickbait or wantonly inflammatory, and is clearly of interest to many based on the comment activity and votes.

Possibly because the comment section will inevitably collapse into a partisan flamewar.

Shouldn't be a partisan issue.

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Post by neither_color »

skyyler wrote: post #311
otikik wrote: post #301

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Perhaps, but you would not have said that to her if you were there.

I absolutely would have. I don't need the support of an imaginary friend when facing oppressive customs laws.

Telling someone in a seemingly hopeless situation that there is a high probability that things will get better because their imaginary friend is more powerful than the machinations of a despotic state is actually preferable to telling them that there's no imaginary friend and nobody is coming to save them. It's a common enough theme in prison camp survival autobiographies.

The so-called "logical" thing to tell them in this hypothetical scenario is not the optimal thing, so maybe it's not the most logical thing to say/do.

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Post by dragonwriter »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #420
dragonwriter wrote: post #415

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> Why is it so hard to write "ICE" ? It is an acronym. Setting acronyms in all-caps is a common American stylistic choice, but far from universal in English language writing; initial-cap for acronyms and all-caps for non-acronym initialisms is also a common style, globally, in written English.

What's a "non-acronym initialism"?

https://www.writersdigest.com/write-better-fiction/abbreviat...
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