DOGE has 'god mode' access to government data

Post by datadrivenangel » Thu, Feb 20, 2025, 2:02 PM UTC

bdd8f1df777b wrote: post #385

eecc wrote: post #201

IMHO it's a bit of a shame that the productivity and efficiency gains that computing and cybernetics can bring to complex systems -- including government -- are always tainted and currently championed by anti-social elites that use them to break apart these collective machines. Bureaucracies are a common good, and it should be in everyone's interest to apply state-of-the-art system engineering to make them as valuabl…

Bureaucracy is always risk averse. Without outside intervention, they will always try to operate as before.

Post by andsoitis » Thu, Feb 20, 2025, 2:02 PM UTC

mexicocitinluez wrote: post #381

snickerbockers wrote: post #48

So how is this any different from all the random employees who might have access to this data as part of their jobs? I would understand if there was this sort of scrutiny over every federal employee but as it stands I never know who has access to my data and if they can be trusted.

> So how is this any different from all the random employees who might have access to this data as part of their jobs? Are you asking why it's any different a non-American billionaire who has multipole government contracts having access to your data any different than Joe Bob who was hired and vetted by those same people unlike the other guy?

Post by amanaplanacanal » Thu, Feb 20, 2025, 2:05 PM UTC

greenie_beans wrote: post #365

mrbigbob wrote: post #329

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isnt a dig at you but something i have noticed over the last few weeks. People keep saying X/Y wont be able to do something because of rules, laws, requirements and i have to keep reminding people rules/laws are only as good as those willing to enforce them

fair point! i guess it does sound like an inept democrat lol. though you don't wanna fuck with the fbi https://le.fbi.gov/cjis-division/cjis-security-policy-resour...

Post by j16sdiz » Thu, Feb 20, 2025, 2:08 PM UTC

jpcom wrote: post #30

drowsspa wrote: post #18

I find it wild that apparently there is no law onto which government workers can cling to refuse these requests. Is it all just based on conventions, goodwill and culture?

Why do you want them to refuse audit requests? There is no upside to hiding egregious government waste other than paying politicians via kickbacks more than what is legally mandated.

Post by preciousoo » Thu, Feb 20, 2025, 2:11 PM UTC

pembrook wrote: post #424

michaelt wrote: post #403

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Your employer is being audited. An unaccompanied stranger wearing a visitor pass comes up to your desk. He says "Hello I'm the password security auditor, tell me your password so I can make sure it's secure" Will your company fail the audit if don't hand over the information? Or will your company fail the audit if if you do hand it over?

You've clearly never been audited by the federal government. In the case of the IRS, generally, you must hand over the data they request or you go to jail. Whether or not it's behind a password protected internal system is irrelevant. Everything is potentially material to any conspiracy to commit tax fraud. I see no reason why the Federal government itself, which works for us, should not be subject to reciprocal trea…