A little Kagi nitpick (off-topic): I contributed a few translations when Kagi was in beta. Then, Kagi introduced a subscription which was too pricey for my budget, so I stopped using it. Nevertheless, Kagi has kept emailing me to contribute even more free translations. Kagi team, folks say you have a great product, but if you don't pay attention to small issues like this one, you are bound to lose some of your goodwi…
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#422I would have purchased several services over the years if they had a pricing like this, which ultimately I did not (because they did not). In particular there was some video editing software for $20/mo, but I knew I'd probably go months between using it. I'd have gladly paid $20/mo when using it, but it would stick in my craw the months I didn't use it.
When the whole SaaS stuff started to pop up as buzzword I actually believed that it would work that way. You don't pay some heavy license fees for a local installation anymore, but get a login where you get billed a specific amount if you use it that day/week/month etc. I was pretty sad when I saw how it got implemented...
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#423The one area that'd make kagi thousands of dollars from me and the apps I use would be to lower their APO searches to a sane price. Currently they charge 2.5c for an API search. This is between 1,000 to 1,000,000 times more than other companies in the space charge. AI systems need to do dozens of searches for every question to get good results and kagi's results are really good. But not 1,000,000 times better than th…
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#424Earlier quoted context omitted.
According to my usage statistics, I use Kagi around 20-50 times a day. Date (UTC) AI Tokens Searches Feb 5, 2025 0 64 Feb 4, 2025 0 43 Feb 3, 2025 0 19 Feb 2, 2025 0 24 Feb 1, 2025 0 19 They don't seem to track any form of history, only the number of searches (since some of their plans have a quota). I pay for unlimited searches, but the stats are still interesting :)
Similar stats for me. It’s become an invaluable tool, sometimes I’ll use another browser that’s has Google as default and immediately notice how much worse it is — all the ads, irrelevant cards, etc. Kagi is like the way Google was 10 years ago, which is MUCH better… with the benefit of more personalization
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#425This makes sense, if someone isn't using your service for a month, chances are good that they are going to cancel soon. Maybe they'll keep on paying for another few months, but if they're not using it, they're not getting any value from it. So rather than getting them to cancel, pause their subscription. You don't have to deal with cancellations, and if/when the user does return, you are one step further than you wou…
More importantly you can tell investors you have even more accounts than you do and your churn rate is very low.
(historically not so important to companies in practice, but it sure ought to be)
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#426This makes sense, if someone isn't using your service for a month, chances are good that they are going to cancel soon. Maybe they'll keep on paying for another few months, but if they're not using it, they're not getting any value from it. So rather than getting them to cancel, pause their subscription. You don't have to deal with cancellations, and if/when the user does return, you are one step further than you wou…
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You might find Privacy Pass of interest then - https://help.kagi.com/kagi/privacy/privacy-pass.html It should be out in the next day or so.
Awesome. I didn't see much detail about how it works in the page. Something like this would be useful for other sites as well. Is this using an existing technology? (Firefox extension is not found. It's probably not in the store yet. Can't find with search either.)
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#429That's great, but I can't even imagine "forgetting" to use Kagi. Completely indispensable.
Could you share what you find in kagi indispensable? Just subscribed, and looking around.
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Kagi is so much better. You should just try one of the lower tier subscriptions for a while and see what it's like. Just for warning, you'll still want to use Google as a backup for hyper local results, but generally the experience with Kagi is much better.
> you'll still want to use Google as a backup for hyper local results And can do so by adding !g to a Kagi query, just like on DDG. You know, I once ordered takeout from the other side of the country because I had too much privacy on my search engine...