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The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Post by fx1994 »

prmoustache wrote: post #418
for_i_in_range wrote: post #8

Hate that if you use Word for Mac, you now have Copilot next to your cursor with no way of turning it off. I just want to use Word. I like its print layout features better than Pages. I don't want to switch. Just let me write and leave me alone. Now they're jamming AI down my throat without any opt-out mechanism.

> I just want to use Word. I like its print layout features better than Pages. I don't want to switch. Just let me write and leave me alone. Now they're jamming AI down my throat without any opt-out mechanism. Why don't you install and use one of the last single purchase licensed version? Last time I checked they were still available.

maybe we are locked with o365 from our IT department...

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Post by usr1106 »

ozim wrote: post #114
rkagerer wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Office 2003 is my preferred pick for productivity, I use it for all new documents - and best of all there's no ribbon.

Why not LibreOffice?

I use it. Not always great, too bloated and instructions found on the web are often for a different version and just don't seem to work.

But pretty sure it's not worse than Microsoft. I'd rather burn my money than spending it on Microsoft "products".

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Post by idk1 »

flanked-evergl wrote: post #409
idk1 wrote: post #402

Feels like madness to get rid of the Office brand, such a strong name and brand, like Twitter or iPhone. Office must be worth billions in brand recognition. Ingoring everything else, that alone feels like a mistake.

You don't need brand recognition when you have market capture. Microsoft can murder a small puppy every time you buy Office and send you a photo, and you will still pay them because what else will you do.

See how good the brand is, you called it Office :) that doesn't exist any more.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Post by maxmcorp »

Fr0styMatt88 wrote: post #248
thelittleone wrote: post #223

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Not only did the megacorp CEO's drop the ball on AI... we've got them gloating over widespread firing of engineers due to AI and then quotes like "I'm good for my $80B" like its his own personal money bag. And now they're force feeding crappy alpha AI products. The egos are well out of hand. And they give this group the name "The Magnificent Seven". WTF have we become. We trust these companies to be stewards of AGI/A…

So much this, when you see Zuck or even Jensen Huang saying "software engineers won't be needed anymore" and being excited about it you get pissed off as a software engineer lol. I feel like Microsoft's whole thing with Windows 11 has been "just force the users to do what we want them to do, we know better than they do" so it doesn't surprise me that 365 went the same way. I'm saying this and I'm a person that's usua…

Well, it is not software developers that won't be needed anymore. It is large corporations. If a small team of developers can make huge projects. There is no reason for them to work for a large business.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Post by raxxor »

thelittleone wrote: post #223
for_i_in_range wrote: post #8

Hate that if you use Word for Mac, you now have Copilot next to your cursor with no way of turning it off. I just want to use Word. I like its print layout features better than Pages. I don't want to switch. Just let me write and leave me alone. Now they're jamming AI down my throat without any opt-out mechanism.

Not only did the megacorp CEO's drop the ball on AI... we've got them gloating over widespread firing of engineers due to AI and then quotes like "I'm good for my $80B" like its his own personal money bag. And now they're force feeding crappy alpha AI products. The egos are well out of hand. And they give this group the name "The Magnificent Seven". WTF have we become. We trust these companies to be stewards of AGI/A…

Did Microsoft fire engineers? I heard they had difficulties recruiting ones in the first place.

We still have no AIs developing anything, they aren't even sensibly integrated in workflows where only written texts need to be parsed and processed.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Post by rsynnott »

esafak wrote: post #330
rsynnott wrote: post #278

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So release them when they work, if ever. Do not release a broken thing and then go “you must use this, in case it is one day non-shit”.

I see you are not familiar with Microsoft.

Granted, they're no strangers to pushing unwanted nonsense on people (remember the ribbon?) but even by their standards this does seem unusually extreme.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Post by xeonmc »

DavidPiper wrote: post #284

I have not used Office for years, but I still can't imagine using anything else to write a document if I ever need to. Serious question: what is the last version of Office (or Office for Mac) that I can purchase that doesn't include AI features? Are there 202x versions still available that will never be updated with AI features? It might be the last piece of Microsoft software I purchase for a good decade.

As I mentioned in another comment, don't buy, just use Microsoft Activation Script, then you can choose whichever AI-free version you prefer.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Post by controlledchaos »

TheRealSteel wrote: post #282
mcny wrote: post #93

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I still don't understand why Ctrl plus shift plus C starts a call on teams when V pastes text unformatted and it is right next to it. At least let me reassign this shortcut...

And the New Teams removed the ability to copy formatted chat logs with timestamps! I used that every single day

So I'm NOT crazy for remembering that being a feature in old Teams! Thanks for confirming!

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Post by bowsamic »

y-c-o-m-b wrote: post #51
Al-Khwarizmi wrote: post #20

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Clearly understandable? Every time someone tells me on Teams about "the file they shared last week", I struggle to find out if I need to go to Onedrive, SharePoint, the Teams channel "files", the Teams channel "documents", etc. It's the most confusing piece of software I'm forced to use...

Teams is the most loathsome piece of collaboration software I have ever used. When it comes to finding basic things, the UX is so far from intuitive that it makes you wonder if they're just trolling us with these awful designs. I remember being excited about a Slack competitor when it first came out, but the same issues it had back then still exist to this day. I wish they would just pull the plug on that piece of cr…

Fun fact if you want to change your office hours timezone to something other than the US default in Teams, you can't do it from Teams, you can't do it from Outlook, you can ONLY do it from the settings in the Outlook web app. Absolutely bizarre and broken situation

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Post by aragilar »

vel0city wrote: post #355
brewdad wrote: post #239

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I sort of had that in my HS English classes more than 30 years ago. Every paper we ever wrote for my final two years was in class for one hour. Occasionally we would get a second class period to work on our papers but the teacher held them until the next class period. I got really good at getting my thoughts down quickly and efficiently. My freshman English course in college nearly broke me however since we were requ…

Blue books are back baby! Honestly the most impactful writings I ever had to write in my education were required to fit within a standard bluebook. https://uvamagazine.org/articles/blue_books

Ours were a certain beige colour.
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