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Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by guappa »

ioulaum wrote: post #287
guappa wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you pay out of pocket it means it's not an approved tool by your company, which means you can be fired and sued for leaking their intellectual property. Also 20$ per month is way less than what it costs them to run it. Eventually they will need to charge way more to cover their costs, and the people who can't code without an AI assistant will need to pony up :)

The coding IDEs at $20/mo do not result in your IP being shared with the AI provider for training. That only applies to regular ChatGPT use. And developers actively using AI for coding can easily spend more than $20/mo for the API. There are people spending $10-15/day in OpenAI API usage working through Cline.

The idea of "do not send proprietary intellectual property to some rando" doesn't even cross your mind uh?

I hope your current and future employers never find this side of your personality :D

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by guappa »

spencerflem wrote: post #380
guappa wrote: post #372

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Where exactly have I defended it? Can you cite the words please?

No, cuz its flagged now, but the vibe I got was that the tank driver wasn't willing to run over the guy, and presumably thus wasn't so violent an incident as we make it out to be I feel like the better move is to acknowledge that they have done and are doing atrocities but that its easier to stop the very similar ones we're doing than the ones being done halfway across the globe

Lol how convenient :D

So now your accusation is based on "bad vibe"… Pretty in character for someone not interested in facts :)

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by guappa »

roca wrote: post #262
guappa wrote: post #156

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To me USA and China are both foreign nations, and USA is the one who is far more aggressive in terms of army and spies. So as a non USA citizen, I'm way more afraid of USA than I am of China.

That makes you an outlier. Despite everything, millions of people are still desperate to get into the USA. China, not so much.

They wouldn't be desperate to get into USA if you stopped messing up their countries.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by muixoozie »

ioulaum wrote: post #129
muixoozie wrote: post #37

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You should check out openrouter if you haven't already.

It's been a little janky for me - usually get better results from directly using a provider's API.

Was going to say it's mostly been great for me. At least until recently trying to try out deepseek r1 it's not been great. I can't tell if it's the router or the provider..

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by sausagefeet »

gaoryrt wrote: post #389
sausagefeet wrote: post #179

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If you woke up tomorrow in either USA or China, which would you prefer to wake up in and why?

Classic false dilemma[0]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

My question is not a false dilemma. As the link you gave points out, a false dilemma starts with a false premise which limits the subject to two absolutes when in-fact multiple exist. My question has no false premise, it's simply asking, if given this scenario, which would you choose and why. I am not saying that in reality you only have those options. The original comment setup the contrast of USA and China, so my question was a way to elucidate more about that contrast.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by throwaway2037 »

danielbln wrote: post #400
guappa wrote: post #170

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> My guess: Your domain is weird/rare, so LLMs are terrible because their training data is very limited. The training data is always limited, because if there was an existing software that already did what I'm doing, I'd be using it instead of writing it :) So by definition, unless I'm learning how to program and doing exercises that thousands have done before me, I'm doing something for which there is no training da…

It's great that you work on truly novel, unseen problems. The rest of us peasants tends to recombine previously solved problems into to novel solutions to solve business needs, and that works rather well with LLMs.

    > The rest of us peasants tends to recombine previously solved problems into to novel solutions to solve business needs, and that works rather well with LLMs.
You took the words right out of my mouth! I wrote a draft reply to OP (but discarded it) with similar thoughts -- roughly: I work on CRUD apps, and so do most other devs; LLMs are a terrific fit for this subject matter.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by ardfard »

softirq wrote: post #30

Side note, but I hate that we're moving to a world where coding costs a subscription. I fell in love with coding because I could take my dad's old Thinkpad, install Linux for free - fire up Emacs and start hacking without an internet connection. We're truly building walls everywhere.

VIM and self-hosted ollama for free?

Nothing stopping you to build the world you want really.

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