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Re: ChatGPT Pro

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The argument of more compute power for this plan can be true, but this is also a pricing tactic known as the decoy effect or anchoring. Here's how it works: 1. A company introduces a high-priced option (the "decoy"), often not intended to be the best value for most customers. 2. This premium option makes the other plans seem like better deals in comparison, nudging customers toward the one the company actually wants…

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Re: ChatGPT Pro

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That's not how pricing works. If o1-pro is 10% better than Claude, but you are a guy who makes $300,000 per year, but now can make $330,000 because o1-pro makes you more productive, then it makes sense to give Sam $2,400.

It would be a worthy deal if you started making $302,401 per year.

Also a worthy deal if you don’t lose your $300k/year job to someone who is willing to pay $2,400/year.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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> In other words, it's a con. A con like that wouldn't last very long. This is for people who rely enough on ChatGPT Pro features that it becomes worth it. Whether they pay for it because they're freelance, or their employer does. Just because an LLM doesn't boost your productivity, doesn't mean it doesn't for people in other lines of work. Whether LLM's help you at your work is extremely domain-dependent.

> A con like that wouldn't last very long

As someone who has both repeatedly written that I value the better LLMs as if they were a paid intern (so €$£1000/month at least), and yet who gets so much from the free tier* that I won't bother paying for a subscription:

I've seen quite a few cases where expensive non-functional things that experts demonstrate don't work, keep making money.

My mum was very fond of homeopathic pills and Bach flower tinctures, for example.

* 3.5 was competent enough to write a WebUI for the API so I've got the fancy stuff anyway as PAYG when I want it.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

#425

I just bought a pro subscription. First impressions: The new o1-Pro model is an insanely good writer. Aside from favoring the long em-dash (—) which isn't on most keyboards, it has none of the quirks and tells of old GPT-4/4o/o1. It managed to totally fool every "AI writing detector" I ran it through. It can handle unusually long prompts. It appears to be very good at complex data analysis. I need to put it through i…

AI writing detectors are snake oil

Re: ChatGPT Pro

#426

I do wonder what effect this will have on furthering the divide between the "rich West" and the rest of the world. If everyone in the West has powerful AI and Agents to automate everything. Simply because we can afford it, but the rest of the world doesn't have access to it. What will that mean for everyone left behind?

If the models are open, the rest of the world will run them locally.

If the models are closed, the West will become a digital serfdom to anointed AI corporations, which will be able to gouge prices, inject ads, and influence politics with ease.

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Oh very intriguing! Could you please elaborate how you are using MCP servers with VS code for coding?

Just use the Filesystem MCP Server, and give it access to the repo you're working on: https://github.com/modelcontextprotocol/servers/tree/main/sr... This way you will still be in control of commits and pushes. So far I've used this to understand parts of a code base, and to make edits to a folder of markdown files.

how is that better than AI Coding tools? They do more sophisticated things such as creating compressed representations of the code that fit better into the context window. E.g https://aider.chat/docs/repomap.html.

Also they can use multiple models for different tasks, Cursor does this, so can Aider: https://aider.chat/2024/09/26/architect.html

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Details of o1 Pro Mode here: https://openai.com/index/introducing-chatgpt-pro/

It does not say anything about real use cases. It performs better and "reason" better than o1-preview and o1. But I was expecting some real-life scenarios when it would be useful in a way no other model can do now.

The point of this tech is that with scale it usually gets better at all of the tasks.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

#429
Tangent. Does any body have good tips for working in a company that is totally bought in on all this stuff, such that the codebase is a complete wreck? I am in a very small team, and I am just a worker, not a manager or anything. It has become increasingly clear that most if not all my coworkers rely on all this stuff so much. Spending hours trying to give benefit of the doubt to huge amounts of inherited code, realizing there is actually no human bottom to it. Things are merged quickly, with very little review, because, it seems, the reviewers can't really have their own opinion about stuff anymore. The idea of "idiomatic" or even "understandable" code seems foreign at this place. I asked why we don't use more structural directives in our angular frontend, and people didn't know what I was talking about!

I don't want the discourse, or tips on better prompts. Just tips for being able to interact with the more heavy AI-heads, to maybe encourage/inspire curiosity and care in the actual code, rather than the magic chatgpt outputs. Or even just to talk about what they did with their PR. Not for some ethical reason, but just to make my/our jobs easier. Because its so hard to maintain this code now, it is like truly a nightmare for me everyday seeing what has been added, what now needs to be fixed. Realizing nobody actually has this stuff in their heads, its all just jira ticket > prompt > mission accomplished!

I am tired of complaining about AI in principle. Whatever, AGI is here, "we too are stochastic parrots", "my productivity has tripled", etc etc. Ok yes, you can have that, I don't care. But can we like actually start doing work now? I just want to do whatever I can, in my limited formal capacity, to steer the company to be just a tiny bit more sustainable and maybe even enjoyable. I just don't know how to like... start talking about the problem I guess, without everyone getting super defensive and doubling down on it. I just miss when I could talk to people about documentation, strategy, rationale..

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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I would pay $200 for GPT4o. Since GPT4, ChatGPT is absolutely necessary for my work and for my life. It changed every workflow like Google changed. I'm paying $20 to remove ads from youtube which I watch may be once a week, so $20 for ChatGPT was a steal. That said, my "issue" might be that I usually work alone and I don't have anyone to consult with. I can bother people on forums, but these days forums are pretty mu…

this is more or less my take too. if tomorrow all Claude and ChatGPT became $200/month I would still pay. The value they provide me with far, far exceeds that. so many cynics in this thread.

You don't have to be a cynic to be annoyed with a $200/month price. Just make a normal amount of money.
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