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Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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From the website:"the number of cars involved in a fatal crash were normalized by the total number of vehicle miles driven"

They assume every car drives the average number of miles. Of course a CR-V is going to score high, since they likely drive more than an average number of miles.

A 911 on the other hand probably drives a small fraction of the average.

This study is fairly low quality. The IHHS list 13.3 fatalities per billion miles as the actual number.

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post #73

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The vast majority of people I talk to, including myself, don't use public transportation for: 1. Time. For example, my commute is 25 minutes, but 2 hours ride and three mile walk by public transport. 2. Safety, intimately tied to the homeless problem. 3. Cleanliness. In my experience, related to #2, and the fact that government institutions are incapable of caring about user experience, because they get funding regar…

It's kind of boring to respond to a comment about public transit needing to work well by complaining about how it doesn't. Especially when limiting investment has often been an explicit choice in whatever given area.

Yes, I was just listing specifically how it doesn't work well, for me and most people. I'm not arguing against the concept or something. It's an extreme chicken and egg problem, with almost certainly no solution that would work outside of SF and NY type densities.

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Politicians bend the truth or promise what they are later unable to deliver (and often had no chance of delivering). But I think Trump usually tries to deliver on whatever he said in the campaign (like in 2016), like you can expect wide reaching tariffs in January or February (especially since half-way competent advisors, congress, and the courts are probably not going to moderate him as much this time). Maybe make a…

That would be pretty ironic if Trump is able to deliver more on his promises than other politicians.

Trump is probably the first politician in history where supporters claim he isn’t going to do what he says he is going to do (“take Trump seriously, not literally!”) while his detractors claim that he is. It’s already a weird spot in history.

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The linked study is better: https://www.iseecars.com/most-dangerous-cars-study#v=2024

It is better. But in the year 2024, why should I believe the data from a random source, with unknown data analysis? When will they be releasing their data package for independent analysis? Why isn't this the expected norm? And how can we make it so?

Did you email them to ask for it? What sort of meta-analysis do you intend to do with their data? Have you released other interesting work in this field that would benefit the post? Why weren’t your intentions for their model published in your comment? What can we do to denormalize rhetoric in forum discussions?

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It doesn’t suck for the majority of people in the country. For them, it’s what they’d love to see. Funnily enough, comments like yours are also what they’d love to see. Seeing leftists in tears over the policy changes we’re going to see is a great form of entertainment for many people.

> For them, it’s what they’d love to see. Apparently not: https://www.axios.com/2024/11/15/trump-elon-musk-focus-group...

Any other left wing propaganda you’d want me to know of?

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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That would be pretty ironic if Trump is able to deliver more on his promises than other politicians.

Trump is probably the first politician in history where supporters claim he isn’t going to do what he says he is going to do (“take Trump seriously, not literally!”) while his detractors claim that he is. It’s already a weird spot in history.

That's pretty common on all highly polarized topics. Happens all the time with stuff like democrat candidates and firearms seizures - supporters walking it back and detractors believing every word.

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post #408

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Inflation was caused by increased government spending, no?

The last COVID stimulus package added from 1 to 4% to inflation, but that was transitory. The wider rise was largely due to other factors such as supply chain disruptions from the pandemic and Russia's invasion of Ukraine. The latter significantly raised oil prices worldwide which in turn raised costs for all kinds of things. Here's an article that covers a lot of the factors [1]. [1] https://www.poynter.org/fact-che…

A source with less partisan politics involved:

https://mitsloan.mit.edu/ideas-made-to-matter/federal-spendi...

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post #225

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Can you mention one thing that Trump or Musk ever did out of altruism?

Trump set up a whole university!

And he ran a charity!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2017/06/06/how-don...

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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I'd love to see some sort of multiple regression or ANOVA on this, instead of singling out a single variable. Is car brand really the best independent predictor? Or is it specific design decisions you tend to see in certain brands? (Like, say, maximizing driver distraction by consolidating a bunch of essential controls and information displays into a touchscreen display that's really difficult to operate when it's su…

It’s also worth noting that sample sizes in this study are low, and without checking I know the results aren’t statistically significant.
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