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Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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Re: Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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Post by armada651 »

kev009 wrote: post #273
dllu wrote: post #174

Author here, ask me anything! Apart from programming, one of the motivations for getting the 8K display is to look at lidar point clouds. For example the desktop background in my post is a lidar map of Bernal Hill in San Francisco, which I've here downsampled to only 13006 x 7991 px for your convenience [1]. Admittedly, when I bought it at first, I didn't realize there would be so many random issues, as manufacturers…

I had the Dell 8k monitor you mentioned, the picture quality was great but it died after a few years not long after the warranty expired (a gut punch at the purchase price) and they said too bad so sad... ok that's fine but I will never buy another Dell product again. It was released too early to have proper displayport support and I had to use a custom nvidia-driver X11 config to make it mostly work as two monitors.…

That's surprising given that Dell usually offers very good warranty on their monitors, at least to consumers. Was this a bussiness (B2B) purchase perhaps?

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Post by maccard »

r3trohack3r wrote: post #294
maccard wrote: post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think this is an honest question. There's no "fixed budget" of energy that is ethically ok to use. The parents point was that these devices are woefully inefficent no matter which way you look at them. The "best" thing to do would be neither, and is usually to just use the device you have - particularly for low power electronics as the impact of buying a new one is more than the impact of actually running the…

I’d be interested in hearing you reconcile your statement by making an ethical case for the energy use of video games and the hardware that runs them. Is there a level of energy that is ethically okay to use for video games?

No more or less than any voluntary activity. What about baking for pleasure?

My point isn't that all energy use is bad, it's that there's no line that says "use to hear as you wish but everything after this is wrong"

Re: Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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Post by dahauns »

cheschire wrote: post #228
dllu wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have the Uplift 4 leg standing desk [1]. I got the black laminate desktop in a custom 75" x 42" dimension so the whole thing cost me almost $2000. [1] https://www.upliftdesk.com/uplift-4-leg-standing-desk-v2-v2-...

I wish deep desks were more common! Modern ultrawide curved monitors sit way too close for comfort for me due to the way their legs have to be angled further back for center of gravity. custom desks end up being so expensive.

That's where a desk mount monitor arm comes in. Even a high-end model capable to hold those 49" 32:9 monsters will likely be significantly cheaper than a custom desk.

Re: Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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Post by jajko »

jszymborski wrote: post #391
throwaway2037 wrote: post #342

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You couldn't buy something from eBay or TaoBao/Alibaba?

I did in fact buy a knock-off from ebay battery, but it kept it kept it's charge for hilariously little time. Had to run it of mains power permanently (ran it as a little server for a while).

Don't know your exact timing but I run basically on Dells Latitude laptops for past 2 decades. Since its just for travel and not my primary workhorse, I buy used corporate ones for pittance (cca 300$ for models worth 1500 few years before), and swap battery myself for another original OEM one, they cost less than 100$ from original manufacturer. Its just 2-3 philips screws and 1 cable, anybody can do it. They last just as much as advertised on new ones and don't degrade much even after few years.

Batteries (and ie chargers) are one of the things that's utterly idiotic to shop around on chinese portals. You literally always get what you pay for (or worse) and can't punch above this threshold.

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Post by bool3max »

Tepix wrote: post #415
pama wrote: post #382

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The power is not so bad, especially compared to the graphics cards you would want to use (and I use my GPU as a tow warmer). Samsung 8k specifically comes with low power presets which are probably usable in this scenario. Of course with so many more pixels in 8k than in 4k there is need for more power but the EU regulation allows selling them if they also support an eco mode. I am old enough to recall 100W as the typ…

The eco mode is not usable, it's the manufacturer's way around a ban of 8k monitors. These monitors use at least twice what other monitors of the same size use, sometimes it's four times as much. And these measurements are probably in eco mode, so it could be worse. > I am old enough to recall 100W as the typical single light bulb and I still use an electric tea kettle that touches the multi kW range daily. Not sure…

I mean considering the value you'd get out of a single monitor compared to a single light bulb, I'd say yes.

Re: Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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Post by hmottestad »

kev009 wrote: post #273
dllu wrote: post #174

Author here, ask me anything! Apart from programming, one of the motivations for getting the 8K display is to look at lidar point clouds. For example the desktop background in my post is a lidar map of Bernal Hill in San Francisco, which I've here downsampled to only 13006 x 7991 px for your convenience [1]. Admittedly, when I bought it at first, I didn't realize there would be so many random issues, as manufacturers…

I had the Dell 8k monitor you mentioned, the picture quality was great but it died after a few years not long after the warranty expired (a gut punch at the purchase price) and they said too bad so sad... ok that's fine but I will never buy another Dell product again. It was released too early to have proper displayport support and I had to use a custom nvidia-driver X11 config to make it mostly work as two monitors.…

You used to have a 32" 8K monitor and when it died you went for a 43" 4K monitor instead? Isn't that a massive difference in pixel density?

Re: Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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Post by GaryNumanVevo »

emsign wrote: post #417

Be aware that TVs make screenshots every few milliseconds and send them away for advertising analytics. I wouldn't use them as a monitor while connecting them to the internet.

Not in Europe! the EU ruled against LG and Samsung for doing it in other regions.

Re: Using an 8K TV as a Monitor

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Post by frognumber »

porphyra wrote: post #247
bdcravens wrote: post #100

> The bezels and gaps in between the monitors introduce distractions and one is limited in how one may arrange terminals and windows across multiple displays. To me, the segmentation is a feature. It lets me offload information density and focus. For example, I commonly have an editor on one screen, a browser on the second, and something like a chat app, terminal, etc on the laptop screen.

The Dell Ultrasharp 43 4K monitor [1] has a mode where it pretends to be four monitors, one in each quadrant. > four unique FHD partitions via Internal Multi-Stream Transport (iMST) when connected to a single PC That's nice for people to organize their windows without needing to figure out a tiling window manager. If only it was 8K instead of 4K... [1] https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-ultrasharp-43-4k-usb-c-...

As a configurable feature, this would be a killer option.

Personally, I'd love an 8k which could act as two 4k in the middle, and two vertical 1920x4320 sides.

I use vertical monitors for documents, documentation, and word-processing.

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Post by jon-wood »

cm2187 wrote: post #390
dllu wrote: post #174

Author here, ask me anything! Apart from programming, one of the motivations for getting the 8K display is to look at lidar point clouds. For example the desktop background in my post is a lidar map of Bernal Hill in San Francisco, which I've here downsampled to only 13006 x 7991 px for your convenience [1]. Admittedly, when I bought it at first, I didn't realize there would be so many random issues, as manufacturers…

I am using a 43 inch 4k monitor so I am allin on big screen real estate. But I find that even with a quarter of your screen area, I struggle to read the corners of the screen, the bottom is often obstructed by whatever is lying on my desk, and I had to make the mouse cursor bigger as I kept losing it. I doubt that an even bigger screen would be practical. I do have two 43in monitors side by side but the other one is…

I had a similar experience using a 43" 4K TV as my monitor, it was an OLED so the picture was absolutely beautiful but I'd end up only using the 32" in the middle of the display. I'm now using a 32" 4K display on my desk which is about the sweet spot for me, lots of real estate, and I can see all of it.
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