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Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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It's $800 to go up to 2TB from the 256GB model which is just criminally over priced. I can get double that for half the price with a Gen 4 NVMe drive. Weirdly the 8TB drive on the Pro is at least in line with the top of the line 8TB NVMe SSDs you can buy though there are cheaper options at about $600 vs the $1200 Apple is charging.

That's regular Apple pricing for you. Great deals on the baseline models, but insane margins on the upgrades that make them usable. And of course the ability to upgrade the devices yourself has been phased out in the name of performance and power efficiency

Apple's silicon is good but I don't see what's so special about all the other stuff. Looks like they just solder components to the motherboard instead of using industry standard interfaces.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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With educational pricing this thing starts as $500, and at 16GB of RAM (finally) I think this easily beats any sort of desktop PC you can buy at that price (let's exclude custom builds, they're not the same market). I think this just became the go-to recommendation I'll give to anybody wanting an entry-level desktop computer of any kind. In fact I might buy one for my parents right now to replace the old mac mini the…

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Microsoft Windows is a non-starter though.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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There's still good deals in mini PC land. Yes, the M4 is faster but there's loads of mini PCs with decent CPUs, 32GB RAM and a 1TB of SSD storage for under $600. I think for a lot of people for basic usage they'll get more value out of the larger and upgradable SSDs than the faster CPU. https://www.amazon.com/BOSGAME-5700U-Displays-Computers-Emul... https://www.amazon.com/Beelink-SER5-Desktop-Computer-Graphic...

But you have to run Windows, which is a deal breaker for most people.

seeing as how windows overwhelmingly owns the desktop market i would suggest it is in fact not a deal breaker for most people.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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16GB base RAM across the board, following the iMac. AI is certainly good for pushing up the baseline RAM that manufacturers can get away with shipping if nothing else.

Unified memory too. It's your GPU and your ram.

The on-chip RAM means that you can run models on the CPU that would require the GPU on a peecee.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Yeah the same tech pcs were using for 14+ years https://x.com/LinaAsahi/status/1820947147312820497

> I know ancient iGPUs had that thing for setting the GPU memory size in the BIOS, but that's aaaaaancient and completely obsolete. If you still have that, just set it to the minimum value. The rest of memory will be unified. I hadn’t used a PC in so long, I still thought that bios setting decided the division. TIL. Lucky we have Asahi Lina to clarify the details.

It shows up as "Shared GPU memory" in Task Manager. What BIOS sets is the Dedicated i.e. reserved video memory in RAM.

e.g. My Ryzen iGPU reserves 2GB/32GB for itself (which Windows can't see) via BIOS and use 9 more as shared "unified" memory.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Are you aware that i9-9900K was launched six years ago [0], two years before Apple Silicon? It's nothing to compare to an Apple M4. [0] https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/186605/...

And TFA goes on and on about how the Mac Mini is like 20x faster than i9.

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You could use an USB C power bank, because it seems to be usb-c powered

Does it work 24/7 or have two power sources? Can you charge the powerbank at the same time so it will rely on the battery only when the power is down?

Many power banks support pass through charging where it powers attached devices while also charging the battery

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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I wish they would add small UPS inside (like super-capacitor or something like that) there to provide way for forced sleep when power is cut off. It's a neat small device which must be accompanied by huge bulky UPS for reliable operation. If someone didn't know, macOS ignores fsync, so without UPS your data is not safe. Not an issue for laptops, obviously, but issue for battery-less devices.

You could use an USB C power bank, because it seems to be usb-c powered

It is not USB-C powered.

It needs 100-240V, 50hz-60hz AC power.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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So, do you think that when the Mac Studio gets upgraded, it will also come with less max RAM, but be unified? Is the whole "unified" RAM a reason that the iMac and Mini are capped at 32G?

The Mac Studio has always had unified memory

All "Apple Silicon" products, going back to the first one, which was the iPhone 4.
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