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Post by echoangle »

nthdesign wrote: post #92

My kids both have creative hearts, and they are terrified that A.I. will prevent them from earning a living through creativity. Very recently, I've had an alternate thought. We've spent decades improving the technology of entertainment, spending billions (trillions?) of dollars in the process. When A.I. can generate any entertainment you can imagine, we might start finding this kind of entertainment boring. Maybe, at…

If I imagine a random person on the street, they certainly aren’t enjoying fine human arts because it’s made by a real person. They are scrolling TikTok and don’t care if it’s AI generated or not, if they even notice. The people actually caring about art because it is art are maybe 20% of the population.

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Post by edmundsauto »

azinman2 wrote: post #373

Unless I'm missing something, this technology's harmful potential outweighs the good. What is the great outcome from it that makes society better? MORE content? TikTok already shows that you can out-influence Hollywood/governments in 10 seconds with your smartphone. Heck, you can cause riots through forwarding text messages on WhatsApp [1]. Not everything that can be done should be done, and I think this is just too…

> TikTok already shows that you can out-influence Hollywood/governments in 10 seconds with your smartphone

I can accept the premise that TikTok is trying to do this. Do we have any objective measurement on how effective it has been?

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Post by adamc »

denisvlr wrote: post #291
adamc wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't be. How is any of this going to lead to meaningful art? I don't think you get "The Green Mile" from something like this.

Shameless plug: I just created a short AI film (1) and tried to tell an actual story and trigger emotions. I spent countless hours crafting the script, choosing the shots, refining my prompts, generating images, animating images, generating music, sounds, and so on... For me AI tools are just that - tools. True, you have to yield them some "control", but at the end of the day you are still the one guiding and directi…

I will take a look. Good to hear.

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Post by scudsworth »

genewitch wrote: post #396
scudsworth wrote: post #349

Earlier quoted context omitted.

a shameless plug deserves an honest review: this is dog shit

I, uh, gave some more nuance because i had some free time as a sibling comment to this. I hope we don't get downvoted because someone has to call a spade a spade.

good comment, haha. agree with those points and would add, since im thinking about it again now, that the entire work feels like a fairly (deeply) shallow riff on the opening sequence in pixar's "up". but of course with no stakes or emotional impact whatsoever.

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Post by mitthrowaway2 »

ddtaylor wrote: post #403
turblety wrote: post #127

Why do these video generation ones never become usable to the public. Is it just they had to create millions of videos and cherry pick only a handful of decent generations? Or is it just so expensive there's no business model for it? My mind instantly assumes it a money thing and they're just wanting to charge millions for it, therefore out of reach for the general public. But then with Meta's whole stance on open ai…

I'm confused the demo let me press a button and generate a video, was it not supposed to?

I didn't see a button for that. Just "download paper". Did I miss it?

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Post by davedx »

This is just the landing page for a research paper? It's hard to understand what the actual production capabilities of this are.

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Post by whiplash451 »

tsimionescu wrote: post #374
intended wrote: post #332

Man, everyone is happy with these advancements, and they are impressive. I’m here looking at users and wondering - the content pipelines are broader, but the exit points of attention and human brains are constant. How the heck are you supposed to know if your content is valid? During a recent apple event, someone on YT had an AI generated video of Tim Cook announcing a crypto collaboration; it had a 100k users before…

We are at a crossroads of technology, where we're still used to the idea that audio and video are decent proof that something happened, in a way in which we don't generally trust written descriptions of an event. Generative AI will be a significant problem for a while, but this assumption that audio/video is inherently trustable will relatively soon (in the grand scheme of things) go away, and we'll return to the his…

Interesting thought. An alternative is a world where we can securely sign captured medium.

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Post by takinola »

adamc wrote: post #245
parsimo2010 wrote: post #224

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You don't get "The Green Mile" from this, because it's a tool. You get "The Green Mile" with artistic vision. The tool has to be told what to do. But now a director can shoot a film with actors who don't match the physical description of a character in a story, and then correct their race/gender/figure/whatever with AI. That probably means they save money on casting. A director can shoot a scene inside a blank set an…

This is the best answer I've seen, but I think what was demonstrated is miles away from this. A lot would need to be able to be specified (and honored) from the prompts, far more than any examples have demonstrated. I'm not against tools for directors, but the thing is, directors tell actors things and get results. Directors hire cinematographers and work with them to get the shots they want. Etc. How does that happe…

My guess is the art form will evolve. When YouTube started, some people thought it would not be able to compete with heavily produced video content. Instead, YouTube spawned a different type of "movie". It was short-form, filmed on phone cameras, lightly scripted, etc. The medium changed the content. I suspect we will see new genres of video content show up once this tech is widely available.

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intended wrote: post #332

Man, everyone is happy with these advancements, and they are impressive. I’m here looking at users and wondering - the content pipelines are broader, but the exit points of attention and human brains are constant. How the heck are you supposed to know if your content is valid? During a recent apple event, someone on YT had an AI generated video of Tim Cook announcing a crypto collaboration; it had a 100k users before…

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Post by [deleted] »

cs702 wrote: post #35

Impressive. It's only going to get better, faster, cheaper, easier.[a] Sooner than anyone could have expected, we'll be able to ask the machines: "Turn this book into a two-hour movie with the likeness of [your favorite actor/actress] in the lead role." Sooner than anyone could have expected, we'll be able to have immersive VR experiences that are crafted to each person. Sooner than anyone could have expected, we won…

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