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Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Post by beaglesss »

troad wrote: post #415
kortilla wrote: post #393

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>If Gen Z or their successors kill the First Amendment, it will be because Elon groomed them to think that this deluge of darkness is what free speech is all about. It is not. Cut the melodrama. This isn’t the first time there has been racism on the Internet. MySpace and then Facebook were both loaded with it and 4chan has been there all along. The Internet in the late 2000s was far less filtered than X today. You’re…

Bull. You can't lie to me about ordinary Internet in the 2000s, because I was there. For context, this is a sampling of literal front page content from Twitter, on an new account with no cookies or follows, via a VPN, from a day in late August when I ran this little experiment: - A meme of a dark-skinned man saying 'You never wuz been judged by yo skeen cola' and a white man replying 'How are you in college?' - 'The…

Before Twitter the nazis would go to the town square of Jew filled towns and march. Americans have been dealing with this for ages and found it legally tolerable.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Post by pjc50 »

fourside wrote: post #354
Melchizedek wrote: post #353

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There seems to be an extreme obsession with blocking, banning, censoring, demonetizing, deplatforming, firing, unbanking, un-personing. And this is from people whose opininions already completely dominate mainstream media and all of public life. This is not healthy.

> whose opininions already completely dominate mainstream media and all of public life How do they completely dominate mainstream media? Twitter is mainstream.

Even twitter is kind of fringe. Fox News is "mainstream" in the US.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Post by pjc50 »

naitgacem wrote: post #378

I think this sounds reasonable. This is based on an anecdotal where my university page blocked me on Facebook. And for some reason everything is posted there, schedules, announcements, exam schedules, important sign-up procedures... I rely solely on accessing the page without logging in in incognito mode. Or people screenshot/forwarding relevant links and announcements.

How did you get into that state, and how did negotiating with the university resolve it?

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Post by slg »

beaglesss wrote: post #418
slg wrote: post #413

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A block function is the online equivalent of a restraining order. Imagine telling a victim of abuse that restraining orders aren’t rational. It doesn’t have to be foolproof to provide a real benefit.

Restraining orders convey dubious benefits and arguably produce more harm than good.

This just feels like a statement made without empathy for why people might seek a restraining order (side note: I hate that empathize/emphasize auto correct in my first comment, but it is too late to edit it). If they truly did more harm than good from the perspective of the people seeking the restraining order, people obviously wouldn’t pursue them. So your opinion seems to be from the perspective of the target of the restraining order.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Post by pjc50 »

Melchizedek wrote: post #353
CobrastanJorji wrote: post #314

Bluesky's Twitter account is appropriately crowing about their superior blocking features: https://twitter.com/bluesky/status/1838292181909672312 : > damn that's crazy. Anyway on bluesky, users have named the blocking function "the nuclear block" because it's such a powerful tool to reduce harassment and dogpiling. You should have control over your experience online.

There seems to be an extreme obsession with blocking, banning, censoring, demonetizing, deplatforming, firing, unbanking, un-personing. And this is from people whose opininions already completely dominate mainstream media and all of public life. This is not healthy.

> And this is from people whose opininions already completely dominate mainstream media and all of public life

Which people and which opinions? Be specific here.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Post by Sammi »

beaglesss wrote: post #418
slg wrote: post #413

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A block function is the online equivalent of a restraining order. Imagine telling a victim of abuse that restraining orders aren’t rational. It doesn’t have to be foolproof to provide a real benefit.

Restraining orders convey dubious benefits and arguably produce more harm than good.

Citation needed.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Post by Lewton »

prokopton wrote: post #399

If you sign out and view a user you can see their posts so I never saw the point of hiding them from logged in but blocked users.

>If you sign out and view a user you can see their posts

Only for prolific twitter users and only a random mishmash of 2+ year old tweets. Usually it just asks you to sign up

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Post by troad »

beaglesss wrote: post #421
troad wrote: post #415

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bull. You can't lie to me about ordinary Internet in the 2000s, because I was there. For context, this is a sampling of literal front page content from Twitter, on an new account with no cookies or follows, via a VPN, from a day in late August when I ran this little experiment: - A meme of a dark-skinned man saying 'You never wuz been judged by yo skeen cola' and a white man replying 'How are you in college?' - 'The…

Before Twitter the nazis would go to the town square of Jew filled towns and march. Americans have been dealing with this for ages and found it legally tolerable.

You're conflating two different things.

You have the right to say all kinds of horrible things without fear of arrest and imprisonment. This is good. The First Amendment rocks. Skokie is good precedent.

There is no logical follow-on from that that would require me to listen to, or publicise, or give equal airtime to, or care about the stupid things you say. None of that has anything to do with free speech.

Most people don't go to Twitter for racism, and yet they're getting their faces rubbed in racism every time they go, and being told that's just free speech, get used to it. The natural consequence of this is the turning of people against free speech, with deeply deleterious effects for the republic.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Post by beaglesss »

slg wrote: post #424
beaglesss wrote: post #418

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Restraining orders convey dubious benefits and arguably produce more harm than good.

This just feels like a statement made without empathy for why people might seek a restraining order (side note: I hate that empathize/emphasize auto correct in my first comment, but it is too late to edit it). If they truly did more harm than good from the perspective of the people seeking the restraining order, people obviously wouldn’t pursue them. So your opinion seems to be from the perspective of the target of t…

The people seeking the restraining order are victims as well, sold a lie by the justice system and lawyers.

Almost anything bad a restraining order seeker is trying to prevent is already illegal. Meanwhile loads of innocent people have their civil rights stripped such as right to bear arms without even a jury trial, and often after same order evicts them from their own house.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Post by Tomte »

troad wrote: post #360
Melchizedek wrote: post #353

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There seems to be an extreme obsession with blocking, banning, censoring, demonetizing, deplatforming, firing, unbanking, un-personing. And this is from people whose opininions already completely dominate mainstream media and all of public life. This is not healthy.

There is no site more perfectly suited to turning people off the fundamental democratic value of free speech than Elon Musk's Twitter, circa 2024. The front page is just brazen anti-Semitism and racism at this point. And no, I am not referring to some reasoned debate of the Gaza War or social issues, I mean literal memes with hook-nosed men, their captions explicitly referring to the Protocols of the Elder of Zion. I…

> The front page is just brazen anti-Semitism and racism at this point

We have plenty of that here. A year ago I would have mailed dang, he used to block „Elders of Zion“ posters quickly.

Today it‘s clear that antisemitism that doesn‘t literally post Elders stuff is welcome on HN, and there‘s no reason to report it anymore.

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