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Re: Apple Watch Series 10

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Post by indoordin0saur »

dr_kiszonka wrote: post #125
hedgehog wrote: post #100

All that and no improvement to battery life. I've been wearing an Apple Watch for a few years, the data collection is good but the abysmal battery life and associated charge management is a real downer. I'm Apple ecosystem for almost everything but the battery and touch sensitivity issues are enough to get me to do the work to go to a different platform for health data.

I don't understand features like sleep apnea monitoring on a device with an "all-day, 18-hour battery life," unless they're expecting people to get one watch for the day and another one for the night.

Is this not a decline in performance? I have the Watch 8 and I'm pretty sure it lasts slightly over 24 hours. 18 hours means that if you put it on the charger daily for 1 hour then you have to shift the time at which you charge it 5 hours earlier every day.

Even if it was just 24 hours that's not good enough. Let's say you religiuosly charge it immediately after arriving home from work, at 6PM. Then one day you go out to dinner and grab some drinks and stay out until 11. It'll have been 28 hours since you grabbed it off the charger the previous day so you won't have use of your watch that evening.

Re: Apple Watch Series 10

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Post by indoordin0saur »

tiltowait wrote: post #109
hedgehog wrote: post #100

All that and no improvement to battery life. I've been wearing an Apple Watch for a few years, the data collection is good but the abysmal battery life and associated charge management is a real downer. I'm Apple ecosystem for almost everything but the battery and touch sensitivity issues are enough to get me to do the work to go to a different platform for health data.

At this point, it’s pretty clear Apple targets a specific battery life (18 hours) and builds the techs around that. As a result, I don’t think we will get an improvement in that area anytime soon. However, it does look like they improved the charging story—something like 80% in 30 minutes? Not bad.

I got the 2020 version of the watch and this is how fast it charges.

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Post by freedomben »

ProfessorLayton wrote: post #305
freedomben wrote: post #296

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I used to do the same thing, but the UX was never great. I've now bought five of these cheap waterproof bluetooth speaker that has play/pause/skip controls on it, and it was a life changer. I keep one in my suitcase for travelling, one in each bathroom, and have a couple paired in stereo that I keep in my office. It sounds amazingly good for the size and price of the speaker. Some of the best $20 I've spent. Brand is…

I went the other way around haha. I used to have a cheap waterproof bluetooth speaker, but upgraded to a much better wall-powered speaker. Ikea sells white-labeled speakers made by Sonos, called ENEBY [1]. Their dual-woofer speaker was amazing for the price, on-par with something like a full size Homepod, for $90! Unfortunately Ikea discontinued their larger version, and now sell Sonos/Ikea co-branded speakers instea…

Thank you! Did you bail from the small speaker because of sound quality?

Do you use your watch to control the Bluetooth playback? If so, When controlling it in the shower, do you find that the touch screen has a hard time sometimes registering your touch, or having it accurately sense?

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Post by bananapub »

serf wrote: post #288
mulderc wrote: post #129

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I wear my Apple Watch all the time, even when I'm sleeping. I pretty much just charge it when I'm in the shower or getting ready in the morning. It charges super fast, and I've found that having a regular charging routine is actually better for these gadgets. Funny enough, watches with longer battery life can mess up your charging habits. I had this problem with my old Pebble watch. Yeah, the battery lasted longer, b…

every single Apple feature or change creates this kind of weird negative-metric-reinforcement no matter the product whenever the number slides backwards or keeps parity Battery doesn't last long? Well, let's forget that the entire market has trended towards catering to a customer desire for long-life batteries -- it's a feature to help coordinate 'charging habits'!... whatever that is. Less keyboard space and battery…

> let's forget that the entire market has trended towards catering to a customer desire for long-life batteries

apple sells 34% of smartwatches: https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/02/22/apple-watch-domin...

and most of the rest are deeply crap Android things that don't have week-long battery life.

Re: Apple Watch Series 10

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Post by laweijfmvo »

tzs wrote: post #342
laweijfmvo wrote: post #7

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I still use mine mainly for - sleep tracking combined with Athlytic for Whoop-style metrics (might not be the most accurate, but good enough). also silent alarms - runs tracking -- nice to be able to track my run and listen to a podcast all from the watch - swim tracking -- i guess Garmin is just as good, but love being able to see the screen while swimming to check my progress if the silly cellular plan wasn't such…

> if the silly cellular plan wasn't such a JOKE ($15/month to share my already $60 plan???), I'd enable that and not need to carry my phone for emergencies on hikes/bike rides, etc. I'm replacing my old Apple Watch without cellular soon with one with cellular, and since my carrier (T-Mobile Connect) did not have any watch support I looked around to see what my options were. I ended up switching to Verizon Visible. Th…

I do like T-Mobile for their 5GB free/included international data (and unlimited texting).

The other concern I’ve read about with MVNOs is that some people were unable to transfer their number out. Don’t really want to lose my number.

Re: Apple Watch Series 10

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Post by bananapub »

crooked-v wrote: post #78

Calling an 18-hour battery life 'all day' still feels like at best borderline fraud to me.

they're being dumb/conservative in marketing material. my 7 year old apple watch still lasts > 24 hours - I wear it ~22.5 hours a day, just plugging it in to charge while I'm getting ready in the morning.

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Post by palijer »

jlmorton wrote: post #366
palijer wrote: post #365

18 hour battery life seems tiny compared to my 10 day battery life on my Garmin Venu 3. Does Garmin just have better battery technology, or some patents that Apple can't use? Why such a large gap in comparable products?

Because they're not even remotely comparable products

What's the major differences between them? I can't really tell from the marketing material for both, they seem very much in the same class of watch.

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Post by exabrial »

Titanium is really soft metal. Stainless Steels can be much much harder than Ti alloys. Or, if they really wanted to make it a luxury item, how about tungsten carbide? I'm not sure why the obsession of Titanium is still a thing, other than I guess consumers don't understand material science.

> maintaining all-day 18-hour battery life

My Garmin Epix Gen2 lasts _literally_ 3 weeks without charging. Granted the app ecosystem between the two isn't really comparable, but the Epix does all of the core functions of any iWatch better... and it has a flashlight.

Once Apple gives up on their "thin" trend and focuses on battery life I'll switch.

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Post by skydhash »

lysozyme wrote: post #369
rtpg wrote: post #356

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I used to use smartwatch timers a lot. I bought a couple magnet timers to throw onto my fridge instead. Best $3 purchase I've ever made. Just smash the buttons, hit it, and go about your day.

Agreed, the UX of a magnet timer on the fridge beats using any kind of smart device for the task of setting kitchen timers. Most of them start a simple count up if not programmed for a specific duration, so you can watch the seconds. Most magnet timers also remember the last duration, so if you use the same timer a lot for the same task (tea, for example), it’s literally a single button press. The same operation on a…

And the fact that the digits are big enough to see them meters away. And it has big buttons so you can manipulate them with your knuckles.

Re: Apple Watch Series 10

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Post by sarlalian »

WillPostForFood wrote: post #223
dymk wrote: post #167

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You charge it for an hour before you go to bed. 23/24 hours is pretty good.

It gives you no margin - you come home late, you lose the data for the night. It is mental overhead that don't want.

While I get the concerns about battery life, like most things in tech it's about weighing different tradeoffs against each other. Battery life, ecosystem, quality of sensors, app availability, resale value, etc.

I already have daily habits around charging, so that doesn't bother me, and if I'm traveling I can either bring a charger or put the watch in low power mode where it lasts a surprisingly long time.

My Apple watch purchase was basically for one feature. Fall detection, and automatic 911 calling. I bought the watch when I had a close call with a car while riding my bike to work, and wanted to make sure in case of an accident, I'd at least probably die in the ambulance and not on the side of the road :)

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