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Apple's risky bet on CarPlay

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Re: Apple's risky bet on CarPlay

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Phones do use AI though, at least iPhones. They look at all sensors (accelerometers, gps, wifi, etc).

Sensor fusion is AI I guess.

AI can be distilled down to a series of if-statements. That's basically all it is.

Re: Apple's risky bet on CarPlay

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CarPlay mostly works, and although it has issues it's definitely user-focused. CarPlay doesn't prevent car makers from tracking vehicle activity. In the end, consumers don't give a shit about the in-vehicle infotainment. It sucks, or it's AA/CarPlay. The first generation of iDrive showed that rich people people will buy cars in spite of the in-car stuff. In fact, most car infotainment sucks, yet people still buy cars…

Yeah it's CarPlay or whatever Android uses, or I want nothing to do with it. Every time I rent a car it's a HELLSCAPE of figuring out whatever crappy UI this brand of car created for that year ... until I get my phone hooked up. Man I just want to get to my hotel not futz with some garbage UI in the garage forever.

I just carry those vent phone holder and use my phone when renting cars.. it's not the best but does the job for getting to the hotel....

obviously i rather have carplay if i could but i am worry about security implication, plugging to a car i don't know

Re: Apple's risky bet on CarPlay

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All I want from CarPlay is for it not to start blaring the last thing I was playing on the car speakers as soon as I plug it in, especially given there’s about a 10 second window between the sound playing and the head unit being booted enough to actually show the screen so I can pause it. I have no idea if it’s the car or CarPlay but could I please just have a toggle somewhere ?

It's the car I'm pretty sure. If anyone has another take I'd love to hear what they think, but I've used many implementations of CarPlay and have never encountered what you're describing.

Re: Apple's risky bet on CarPlay

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One thing that is ridiculous with CarPlay is that I can't read messages: it only allows to "speak" it and while I use my phone in English I message with my friends in my native language and speaking works terrible. Even my car's shitty infotainment system can display messages. This results in the worst possible outcome: I need to take my phone and read the messages on my phone screen, creating a safety risk.

Is the message so important it justifies creating a safety risk? You could also just wait until you've arrived or stop the car at a safe place...

That's the problem. I don't know if the message is important or not unless I see it. There wouldn't be a safety risk if at least the beginning of the message was displayed on screen. That would be enough to figure out if it's something worth stopping for or something that can wait.

Re: Apple's risky bet on CarPlay

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Why can't we have a car that only has:

(a) a standardized mechanism for attaching and powering your phone on its dashboard (think a "mini VESA mount" with options for USB/wireless charging)

(b) bluetooth HID-compatible physical controls on the steering wheel and/or center console so you don't have to reach for your device

(c) a minified car "radio" that only offers AM/FM radio and bluetooth audio connectivity

All other controls should be physical, copied straight out of a 90s/00s car.

Re: Apple's risky bet on CarPlay

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The only reason I use CarPlay is because I have an iPhone. The experience with Android auto is way ahead. Did you ever try to call a business that’s not in your contacts? Did you ever try to ask a simple question? Siri integration is horrible

I feel like we should separate Voice Assistants from infotainment in general here.

Yes, Siri is terrible, but the EUs new DMA law requires that I be able to select a different voice assistant on iOS too, and that should theoretically, once implemented, also apply to CarPlay.

In my opinion, and while I haven't used "Android Auto" I have used "Android Automotive" (the OS version, without a phone driving the integration), CarPlay the infotainment integration (besides Siri) offers a better user experience.

Re: Apple's risky bet on CarPlay

#427

One thing that is ridiculous with CarPlay is that I can't read messages: it only allows to "speak" it and while I use my phone in English I message with my friends in my native language and speaking works terrible. Even my car's shitty infotainment system can display messages. This results in the worst possible outcome: I need to take my phone and read the messages on my phone screen, creating a safety risk.

Why do you need to read messages while you’re driving?

because the message may be informing the driver of a change in destination

Re: Apple's risky bet on CarPlay

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This article is very surprising to me, people actually use and want this software? I always avoid using car infotainment because they suck and just link my phone via bluetooth because it isn't the worst possible thing.

Re: Apple's risky bet on CarPlay

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There's an interesting gap when discussing carplay/aa. Cars from the 90s up until about 2013 can be easily fitted with a $500 head unit upgrade, and support carplay quite well. With the right tools, it can be done in about two hours right in your driveway. Cars from 2018 and up pretty universally support carplay, and it's generally quite well integrated into the car's infotainment system. But, between 2013 and 2017,…

I'm interested in where this data is sourced: "only 21% of people will buy a car without carplay". I find that really hard to believe even if the survey was isolated to SF.
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