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I love this comment, I think you're completely right. What I love most about this comment is how it caused me to reflect on what I use daily and get some amount of joy from. When it comes to Apple products in particular I use an Apple Studio display at home, I use it for 10hours per day, every day, and honestly I have no complaints, it's probably one of the best bits of technology I use daily. However, it's completel…

Interesting. I have a Studio Display and it just feels like a huge compromise. There are only two 5K displays on the market that can render macOS at Retina resolution on a 27" panel: this one and the LG Ultrafine, which isn't that much cheaper. My last monitor was a 27" LG QD-OLED 144Hz 4K display. I LOVED that display, but text wasn't sharp because of the Retina resolution problem. I also have a semi-professional we…

The XDR Pro Display is the Mac monitor without technical compromise.

Incredible for coding.

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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This is really just an opportunity for you to up your typing game. Black out your letters a few at a time until the keyboard is blank.

I can touch type just fine, it’s finding the home row to put my fingers in the start positions that is the problem. Blacking out my keyboard wouldn’t accomplish anything.

Aw ok, so when you use AVP are you frequently leaving the keyboard to do other gestures?

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Being a programmer necessarily changes how you approach and interact with computers. After a while (and not a long one) you develop a serious usability bias since you can intuit what a program is doing and how best to interact with it. The longer you work in software, the harder it is to accurately imagine how a non programmer uses a computer. That’s why the classic “only users could cause this error” jokes exist.

The way i see it, that's just a huge advantage. My partner works as a medical research assistant. They had filled data into a huge spreadsheet in a software I think was called IBM SSES or something along those lines. Basically an excel spreadsheet, with hundreds of columns and tens of thousands of rows. One of the analyses they wanted to run wasn't working correctly so she was tasked with filling in 0s in place of em…

It’s a useful skill when using a machine, but not when anticipating how people out in non-tech land will use that same machine.

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Why does anyone like wireless headphones? 3 different pieces to track, have to constantly be on charge, and pricey at that. I ended up finally buying some iems

That’s wildly different from my experience. Never lost the pieces or had to “track” them and the charge lasts for longer than I can comfortably listen to something without a short break. Being tethered to a phone or computer with a wire that pulls, catches, and makes rubbing noise through your ears is truly an awful relic of the past.

Never had that problem. I run the cables underneath my shirt and hand the earbuds on my shirt when I’m not using them. Super convenient for me

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Why does anyone like wireless headphones? 3 different pieces to track, have to constantly be on charge, and pricey at that. I ended up finally buying some iems

As a train commuter, wireless headphones are a massive improvement over wired for my semi-daily commute. I used to have the headphone wires constantly getting caught on my bag, other people's jackets, getting twisted and knotted in my bag, etc.

I just run the cable underneath my shirt. Don’t have to worry about them getting lost, and don’t have to worry about charge

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I'd rather work from a real mountaintop on a crappy laptop. Actually, no. I'll work at work and leave it all behind on the mountain.

How about work and live on a mountain and forget about this idea of ‘at work’?

It's nice to keep it separated. Working vacations never really go that well.

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Until I can drop into a terminal with bash and full access to unix command line tools and an editor of my choice, the AVP just isn't useful for the type of work I do. Right now the only thing would be as a virtual display for my mac. But given the M2 chip inside the AVP there's no reason it can't do everything my mac can do (and more).

Hopefully one day apple will come to their senses and let this thing be open for real development work, but I'm not holding my breath.

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If a meeting is simplistic enough not to need planning and action items, you don't need a meeting. Make a conference call. If action items are simplistic enough that you don't need to consider calendars for the future, don't need the ability to show the status of existing concerning items, and any reliable information is conveyed via paper, you've got multiple problems. Mostly you have a culture problem, to put it si…

I'd probably make the opposite argument. If I'm messing with my computer during a meeting then the meeting probably didn't require me to be physically present. At that point it could've been either remote or async facilitated by software. This is unless I'm running the meeting and my laptop is plugged into the big screen.

> If I'm messing with my computer during a meeting then the meeting probably didn't require me to be physically present.

I was making the assumption that presentations were excluded (and confusing the issue). A meeting is dynamic between individuals. Relying solely on what you can recall is less efficient than using a device to assist, plain and simple.

If there is any value, at all, in a face to face meeting, then a device can only enhance it. If there is no value, then that consideration has no place in the discussion about how to have the most productive face to face.

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Couldn't agree more. I bought an AVP on day one to be used -exclusively- as a monitor extender for coding. It's untenable. The only way I could avoid significant neck/back pain from the weight was to sit in a reclining chair. That wouldn't be a bad coding setup, but my eye strain was pretty significant, too. I ended up returning mine. This is a necessary 1.0 to build out the app ecosystem, etc. but it's absolutely no…

I almost returned mine for that exact reason until I used it in bed before going to sleep. I have never fallen asleep faster. I know it sounds really strange that a computer strapped to my face helps me sleep but I guess something about the whole immersive environment really helps. I also don’t feel the pressure on my head when I’m lying down.

Makes sense to me! There are so many useful edge cases that justify its use. Watching high def content alone is a pretty strong justification.
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