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Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by ysofunny »

chatmasta wrote: post #416
ysofunny wrote: post #362

Earlier quoted context omitted.

naming things is hard is one of the cultural difference between a computer-first logical mindset contrasted with the mathematics-first mindset the mathematics first mentality does not properly recognize the importance and the difficulty of having good names for things, whereas the computological view recognizes both: the importance and the difficulty

Insofar as naming things is basically applied category theory, I'd trust a mathematician to name a set of products more tersely and understandably than I would an English major.

I'm running a contest in my head: "which academic discipline can transfer more information with less text"

so far it's a close race between philosophers and mathematicians. I'll take your comment as a vote in favor of mathematicians

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Post by elorant »

tarvaina wrote: post #299

Did I get this right? Bard – old name of their generative AI service, to be called Gemini Duet AI – old name for their generative AI in Google Workspace, to be called Gemini Gemini – three things: 1. the name of their models (like GPT). 2. the new name of their free service (like ChatGPT), gives access to Pro 1.0 but not Ultra 1.0. 3. the new name of the Generative AI tools in Google Workspace. Gemini Advanced – the…

And I thought that only Microsoft had the unique ability of making a mess out of labeling their products

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Post by nextworddev »

ra7 wrote: post #334
tarvaina wrote: post #299

Did I get this right? Bard – old name of their generative AI service, to be called Gemini Duet AI – old name for their generative AI in Google Workspace, to be called Gemini Gemini – three things: 1. the name of their models (like GPT). 2. the new name of their free service (like ChatGPT), gives access to Pro 1.0 but not Ultra 1.0. 3. the new name of the Generative AI tools in Google Workspace. Gemini Advanced – the…

It’s sad that a company of very smart people can’t figure out coherent naming. Can you imagine Apple causing confusion like this? I know it’s not a like-for-like comparison, but everything Apple does it seems like they have a grand strategy that’s clear for everyone to see. Things build up in a modular way to fit a big puzzle. Google, on the other hand, constantly makes up things on an ad hoc basis.

Maybe they are just book smart..

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Post by lupire »

ramoz wrote: post #295
ramoz wrote: post #293

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For me, GPT nailed it with this prompt: Tabitha likes cookies but not cake. She likes mutton but not lamb, and she likes okra but not squash. Following this rule, will she like cherries or pears? Take a deep breath in order to solve the problem, and do not rush to naïve solutions.

https://chat.openai.com/share/c89aaac5-a6f7-4f50-9cac-ae4777...

That looks like 3.5, which gets lucky sometimes because it has memorized the Internet.

Watch it flail here:

https://chat.openai.com/share/c2b14eb0-dc45-4eaf-a547-951ff0...

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Post by fl7305 »

mewpmewp2 wrote: post #197
ipsum2 wrote: post #82

In the 20 minutes of experimentation, I'm really impressed with the quality of Bard Advanced (Gemini Ultra). The results are as good as GPT-4, and in some cases is better. So far: pros: - better at translation (tried Chinese and Japanese idioms to English) - better at incorporating search results in its answer vs gpt-4 bing cons: - slightly worse at coding - censorship is more annoying (have to ask multiple times abo…

I think that logic is the most important thing to look out for though.

I just tried some logic puzzles on the Advanced model, and was not impressed. It feels much worse than paid ChatGPT.

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Post by akmittal »

darkerside wrote: post #199
pgeorgi wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From one of the earlier announcements Google has made: - Bard is that talkative text interface, a product. - Gemini is the LLM design that currently backs Bard (but also other Google AI products). - Gemini "Basic", Advanced and Ultra are different sizes of that design. This is conjecture, but "Ultra 1.0" probably indicates that they intend to release more models based on the Ultra configuration. Since that's the most…

Sounds like Bard is ChatGPT, and Gemini Ultra is GPT-4. Arguably clearer than OpenAI'S naming.

Not anymore, bard is also Gemini now

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Post by jonplackett »

I’ve been pretty excited to finally try Gemini advanced. So far pretty disappointed.

Here’s my go-to test question - which even chat gpt 3.5 can get.

Question:

I walk up to a glass door. It has the word push on it in mirror writing. Should I push or pull the door, and why

Gemini advanced:

You should push the door. Here's why: * Mirror Writing: The word "PUSH" is written in mirror writing, meaning it would appear correctly if you viewed it in a mirror. This suggests that the correct action from your side is the opposite of what the word states. * Door Mechanics: Most doors are designed to be pushed open from the side with the hinges. If there are no handles to indicate otherwise, it's generally safer to assume a standard push-open mechanism. Let me know if you'd like another brain teaser!

It isn’t even consistent with itself - it gets that you should do the opposite, but still says to push the door. This ‘talking to a dumb person’ feeling is the worst.

ChatGPT 3.5

You should pull the door. The fact that the word "push" is written in mirror writing indicates that it's intended for people on the other side of the door to read, not for you. Typically, when there's a sign indicating to push or pull, it's meant for the person approaching the door, not someone already on the other side.

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Post by tempmac »

shrx wrote: post #382
sho_hn wrote: post #316

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Gemini is four things: The new mobile app is also called Google Gemini. Except on iOS, where Gemini is integrated into the Goople app instead. Also, while Gemini Advanced is supported in , this list is not the same as the the Google Gemini app is supported in on the Play Store. Make sure you check this before you spend money on your upgraded Google One subscription.

> The new mobile app is also called Google Gemini. Only in the U.S. for now. The Gemini app initially will be released in the U.S. in English before expanding to the Asia-Pacific region next week, with versions in Japanese and Korean. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/google-ap-chatgpt-san-fra...

gemini is a bad name in korea...

"잼민이" (Gem-min-ee) is a derogative term for rude elementary kids online

"smart gemini" sounds really weird

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Post by browningstreet »

I hope we can get past the round robin required to get content out of GPTs. Lately I’ve stopped using Bard and copilot for summaries because they were… mis-directed. ChatGPT and Phind have been most reliable.

But yesterday I needed to populate some database/spreadsheets with some basic data and Bard was the only system that attempted to address my prompt and provide to me 50 results, and in Google Sheets no less.

Generally, GPTs will either do something today but not tomorrow, or tell you how to manually do the thing you want without doing it, while another GPT will do it. It feels like growing pains, politics and safety shackles.

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Post by chimeracoder »

lupire wrote: post #391
kevinventullo wrote: post #350

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Maybe not quite the same, but I will point out that “Apple TV” and “Apple TV+” are not just two distinct products, but are in fact entirely different categories of product. One is a piece of hardware akin to a Roku. The other is a streaming service akin to Netflix.

Thanks to Disney, "+" is the industry term for "Streaming"

> Thanks to Disney, "+" is the industry term for "Streaming"

Google+ was too far ahead of its time!

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