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More misdrilled holes on 737 MAX in latest setback

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Re: More misdrilled holes on 737 MAX in latest setback

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I would be very surprised if Boeing doesn't covertly have people looking for issues with Airbus planes and we'll soon be hearing about some of those in the coming months.

Not a smart strategy... Unless your competitor is doing something really very terrible and dodgy, usually being found out doing that kind of thing does much worse things to your own PR than anything you find does for theirs...

Re: More misdrilled holes on 737 MAX in latest setback

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What blows my mind is that no one brings up that the 737 Max was an at the hip response to Airbus A320neo. I remember Boeing didn't even have a response when Airbus has already secured some contracts and had actual demo flights. Then Boeing goes "me too" and cheats Airbus out of contracts due to the "no training" needed scam. I recall thinking to myself, this is bullshit. The Airbus planes were beautiful and the Max reeked of hacks and rush jobs. This should have brought more government scrutiny as anyone could have guessed they would do anything to get these to market asap. It's truly a shame and a black eye for American ingenuity.

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Also important for leadership is being a thin-skinned an emerald mine scion who believes in astonishingly racist tropes.

Personal attacks generally aren't encouraged on HN, even if you don't like the person.

We're evaluating a public figure's ability to lead. That's not a personal attack.

Re: More misdrilled holes on 737 MAX in latest setback

#424

Door blow out Engine on Fire 'Many loose bolts'. etc.. Now This. Have a flight in couple weeks? Time to worry?

No... It's hard to overstate how much safer flying (in well regulated countries especially) is than any other point in aviation history. It's incredible to look at the lists of accidents and incidents with aircraft from the 60s, 70s etc. - today the 737 Max is a huge outlier with the number of fatalities in two hull loss accidents, but if this was the 70s we'd probably have expected almost any model of plane to have had at least three or four similar accidents and a bunch more minor ones in the time the Max been around.

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No I don't buy this. The shareholders would be better off if they promised a $800m incentives-based / performance-based package (e.g. stock options etc.) than promising $80m if the CEO performance sucks . And any CEO rejecting this offer, is a huge red flag.

$800M? Can you imagine the public howling at that kind of CEO comp?

The more hilarious part is the incentive to pump the stock and leave someone else to hold the bag would be even worse.

This would reach crypto-scales pumping.

Re: More misdrilled holes on 737 MAX in latest setback

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Personal attacks generally aren't encouraged on HN, even if you don't like the person.

We're evaluating a public figure's ability to lead. That's not a personal attack.

> is being a thin-skinned an emerald mine scion who believes in astonishingly racist tropes.

That's a personal attack. Talking about failures of planning in mass manufacturing, backlash due to public statements, and casual behavior about publicly traded companies and information related to them, those would be material criticisms that we can discuss civilly.

The claims of racism and inheriting some amount of money from a debunked emerald mine conspiracy aren't helpful on their own.

Re: More misdrilled holes on 737 MAX in latest setback

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're evaluating a public figure's ability to lead. That's not a personal attack.

> is being a thin-skinned an emerald mine scion who believes in astonishingly racist tropes. That's a personal attack. Talking about failures of planning in mass manufacturing, backlash due to public statements, and casual behavior about publicly traded companies and information related to them, those would be material criticisms that we can discuss civilly. The claims of racism and inheriting some amount of money fr…

Racism is relevant for a CEO. Thin-skinned is relevant for a CEO. Whether they inherited wealth is relevant for how you judge their wealth.

> debunked

Kind of? His dad was originally making the claim but is now saying something different.

> conspiracy

You have a weird definition of conspiracy.

Re: More misdrilled holes on 737 MAX in latest setback

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> is being a thin-skinned an emerald mine scion who believes in astonishingly racist tropes. That's a personal attack. Talking about failures of planning in mass manufacturing, backlash due to public statements, and casual behavior about publicly traded companies and information related to them, those would be material criticisms that we can discuss civilly. The claims of racism and inheriting some amount of money fr…

Racism is relevant for a CEO. Thin-skinned is relevant for a CEO. Whether they inherited wealth is relevant for how you judge their wealth. > debunked Kind of? His dad was originally making the claim but is now saying something different. > conspiracy You have a weird definition of conspiracy.

Then make the connection between racism and damages to a company relevant to the discussion, or being thin-skinned and the same.

There is zero evidence that Elon profited off the emerald mine his dad bought shares in, and the allegation is that he conspired to hide that money somehow. It's a normal definition of conspiracy.

Re: More misdrilled holes on 737 MAX in latest setback

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Racism is relevant for a CEO. Thin-skinned is relevant for a CEO. Whether they inherited wealth is relevant for how you judge their wealth. > debunked Kind of? His dad was originally making the claim but is now saying something different. > conspiracy You have a weird definition of conspiracy.

Then make the connection between racism and damages to a company relevant to the discussion, or being thin-skinned and the same. There is zero evidence that Elon profited off the emerald mine his dad bought shares in, and the allegation is that he conspired to hide that money somehow. It's a normal definition of conspiracy.

> Then make the connection between racism and damages to a company relevant to the discussion, or being thin-skinned and the same.

They both have obvious consequences in a leadership position. Obvious consequences are enough.

> There is zero evidence that Elon profited off the emerald mine his dad bought shares in, and the allegation is that he conspired to hide that money somehow. It's a normal definition of conspiracy.

1. I have never heard this "hiding money" part of it so I don't think that's the crux of it.

2. "Some guy hid his own money" is not a conspiracy. This is baffling.

Re: More misdrilled holes on 737 MAX in latest setback

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> Why are you including only US airlines for comparing a plane model's safety? That seems very convenient 737 MAXs are not identical worldwide. There's a number of optional add-ons, which even discount US airlines will pay for, but emerging market discount airlines will not. Specifically for the 737 MAX crashes, it was from a faulty AoA sensor. Neither of the crashed planes had the AoA disagree alert option, but all…

I actually specifically mentioned airlines operating in the U.S., which includes international flights operated by foreign airlines. But yes, you get to the heart of the matter. The U.S. in general expends more time and effort on safety: higher-spec airplanes, more crew hours and training, better maintenance, etc. It doesn’t feel relevant to most people on this site to include airlines operating on a shoestring budge…

Southwest made changes to activate the indicator after the accident, so they at least were in a similar (or same?) situation at Ethiopia.

Ethiopia Airlines is the largest in Africa, with a good safety record. It is a Star Alliance member, and has flights to Washington DC.

https://theaircurrent.com/aviation-safety/southwest-airlines...

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