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Goodbye non-KISS appliances

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Re: Goodbye non-KISS appliances

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The lights make some sense in that you may not want to walk to another corner of your house, or up and down stairs to be able to turn them on or off. Similar functions, like smart locks or blinds or ovens also let you have some peace of mind to make sure you’ve got everything in the On/Off state you need it to be in. Though personally I think we’re barking up the wrong tree by trying to smarten up every appliance. Th…

Perhaps instead of rails you could go for a flying quadcopter-drone with some sort of manipulator arm. If it was light it could even land and charge from the same ports it uses to communicate with appliances. Of course if any big FAANG-company does this expect it to be beaming everything it sees straight up to the cloud. Amazon already tried this with their Ring security drone.

The issues with drones is it takes energy to stay aloft and you’ll be introducing weight limits. It’ll also become a target for pet owners. Cats, in particular, will swat them down.

Re: Goodbye non-KISS appliances

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Is an activated charcoal filter like in a fridge or Brita or something enough to filter out that kind of contaminant?

I don't know. We have started using Epic Pure filters. They claim to filter PFOA/PFOS [1]. Don't take this as a recommendation though. I have no expertise in this at all and I haven't done any tests to confirm whether Epic's claims are actually true. https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1681/3573/files/Epic_Pure_...

Same for Lifestraw pitcher https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2631/0778/files/Performanc...

Re: Goodbye non-KISS appliances

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Yes, I agree. I'm not a luddite per se - heck, I make a living out of making stuff talk to one another on a network. But I don't get the appeal, from a customer standpoint, of having all physical objects talk to you or to the Internet. Like, why? I get it when it comes to alarm systems. Being able to get a notification when someone breaks in is nice, because the alarm system is mostly doing its job when you're not at…

Even appliances that aren't internet connected are going down this terrible UX path. My old washing machine had nobs (dials) you turn. You put the clothes and soap in, close the door and press the button. My preference of type of wash and water temperature were all "saved" by the nob position. My current washing machine, nob is type of wash, capacitive touch buttons for everything else. Keeping the nob "on" keeps the…

> nobs (dials)

You just made me realise Americans don’t use the word ‘knob’… or do they?

Re: Goodbye non-KISS appliances

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> They did fine for many years without mobile phones, cars, aircraft and computers... your point is irrelevant. Nah, rather it's the comparison that is off. Without cars, for example, transportation was slow and constrainted, affecting commerce, work, and lots of other things. Whether good or bad (since there are negatives too) the introduction of the car was a huge change. Network connected fridges? The incovenience…

And without open door alarms, food would sometimes get spoiled and cause waste. Why are you fighting the guy over this feature? Everybody here is in agreement that network-connected fridges are not particularly useful but you're trying to make a point about open door alarms.

>Why are you fighting the guy over this feature?

I'm not fighting anybody. I'm stating my opinion, which happens to be different than his. Isn't this the purpose of a forum?

>Everybody here is in agreement that network-connected fridges are not particularly useful but you're trying to make a point about open door alarms.

The context here is the fridge sending you online messages about the open door.

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Also if anyone knows a good brand for dumb TVs.

I think they’re basically extinct on the high end. Your best option will be to get a smart TV and never set it up with a network connection. You’ll maybe want to do firmware updates now and then, but you can plug it in temporarily for those. It’ll still do more than you strictly want it to, but the most invasive behaviors will be off the table. Alternatively you can get a huge computer monitor and use that as your TV…

I've got an LG OLED TV, it's connected to the internet and I use the apps, but don't seem to have any annoyances like voice control or adverts; it allows you to use it without agreeing to all the T's and C's, and if you don't agree to the ones about advertising or voice activation it just works.

YMMV, anecdotal, it might get patched out later, I don't know. I hope EU consumer and privacy laws are protecting me in this case.

Re: Goodbye non-KISS appliances

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And major brands would force you to pay a fee to disable advertising.

To me paying to disable ads is a fair deal.

I think that if the manufacturer is going to continue using the appliance for their own business purposes, they shouldn't be permitted to describe the transaction that causes you to possess it as a "sale", because you don't own it free and clear.

Re: Goodbye non-KISS appliances

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If you want to keep it simple, don't even bother with filtered water and just drink out of the tap. It is safe in the developed world. If you are concerned about germs, which can get through the filter anyway, you should boil the water instead.

It should be safe, but a lot of areas have aging infrastructure and related problems (think Flint). Other areas mess with the water, in some areas of the UK the water is fluoridated, on paper it's to improve dental health, but a conspiracy theory is that it's cheaper to use humans as cheap filters instead of dispose of excess fluoride in a managed fashion.

Also, "the developed world" is a very polarising statement to make.

Re: Goodbye non-KISS appliances

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Like how there's an alternative market for dumb tvs, except they're more expensive and have worse screens?

TVs are a different type of product than a fridge though. With fridge once you have the basics covered you can be set.

I'm not sure what you mean.
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