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Re: Anki – Powerful, intelligent flash cards

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Post by Graziano_M »

sivers wrote: post #330
BeetleB wrote: post #263

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> About 1000 cards now. We do it daily. It's often just a few cards per day, so it takes 1-5 minutes. 1000 cards over 5-6 years is 160-200 per year, so on average less than one a day. Did you start out slow and increased the pace as he grew, or is it more of chunking (e.g. add a few cards per day for some days, then just review for days before adding more)? I'm sure whatever approach you did was organic and not plann…

> How did he encode what the neighboring countries are? See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria#/media/File:Syria_(ortho... That map of the globe is what we use as the front of the card He sees that and knows the answer is Syria. But because we also do that for the other countries around it, he knows Turkey, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, etc. He knows where that country is, in context of…

He'll probably rock at this game https://imois.in/games/travle/

Re: Anki – Powerful, intelligent flash cards

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Post by steeve »

sivers wrote: post #18

My boy is 11 now. We've used Anki with him every day since he was about 5. Examples of things he's memorized, for fun: * every country, recognized by unlabeled shape on the map * spelling * many body parts, names of bones and organs, from illustration * chemical elements, by symbol (Na, Fe, Zn, etc) * unix filesystem commands * numeracy references (km from here to Japan, earth to sun, meters from home to school) * re…

Congratulations on your boy.

Re: Anki – Powerful, intelligent flash cards

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Post by michaelcampbell »

sivers wrote: post #18

My boy is 11 now. We've used Anki with him every day since he was about 5. Examples of things he's memorized, for fun: * every country, recognized by unlabeled shape on the map * spelling * many body parts, names of bones and organs, from illustration * chemical elements, by symbol (Na, Fe, Zn, etc) * unix filesystem commands * numeracy references (km from here to Japan, earth to sun, meters from home to school) * re…

As long as you and he are getting something out of it, fine, but do be aware there is some research into SRS not at all working like (nor as well as) it does for completely-formed, mature brains.

Re: Anki – Powerful, intelligent flash cards

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Post by michaelcampbell »

xbar wrote: post #149
pavelboyko wrote: post #36

Spaced repetition, especially when using tools like Anki, is effective for memorizing facts. However, memorization represents the most basic level of learning objectives, see e.g. [1] and [2]. Are there any recommended tools for practicing more advanced levels of knowledge, such as relational analysis, synthesis, and critical evaluation? [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloom%27s_taxonomy [2] https://en.m.wikipedi…

I think you are minimizing something that is very important. Understanding deeply and completely any topic is much easier when you understand deeply and completely the fundamental components and concepts--which starts with memorization.

Indeed. Having a good memorization of "building blocks" of whatever higher minded thing you're looking into allows a lot more native synthesis of ideas.

It also keeps you from having to interrupt your flow to stop and go look something up.

Re: Anki – Powerful, intelligent flash cards

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Post by michaelcampbell »

jan_Inkepa wrote: post #3

Every few years I use Anki heavily for language stuff (German, more recently Latin and Classical Chinese), up to 90 minutes a day, but I can never keep the workload under control, or my habits change, and give it up. I still benefit from a year of training, but it seems the long-tail of spaced repetition doesn't work for me at all. But so long as I get to the point where I can read or watch TV, the considerable effor…

> Every few years I use Anki heavily for language stuff (German, more recently Latin and Classical Chinese), up to 90 minutes a day, but I can never keep the workload under control, or my habits change, and give it up.

This is a problem, but perhaps not the one you think. The goal here is the habit; how much you get through is way secondary. As a multi-year user of Anki, I'd recommend working on the daily habit as an addition to whatever German, etc. you're already doing.

Anki has easy ways to limit your use; set your max-card-per-day to something silly like 5. You can do 5 cards a day, yeah? That'd take less than a minute, typically.

Once you're ok with that, up it a bit. Don't make this the SOLE vector of practice, use it as an adjunct to your normal routine of learning.

A habit done suboptimally is >>>> missing doing it, but perfectly. Frequency is generally better than quality. Once you get the former, ratchet up the latter.

Re: Anki – Powerful, intelligent flash cards

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Post by michaelcampbell »

jamager wrote: post #375
jwrallie wrote: post #39

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I had the same experience. I invested a lot of time on Anki and it paid back, but I could never stick to it. There is always a point where I have to skip 2 or 3 days because of life and the huge backlog is too much that I give up. I recently started to use Supermemo because of some comments on HN, and so far it have been going quite well. I feel less overwhelmed when I have to take a break, I think the algorithm (or…

Anki algorithm's is extremely punishing, which is awful for language learning. I think SRS needs to be only a small part of the learning routine, the cherry on the cake. For me that is ~15 minutes / day, and backlog is manageable even if I occasionally take 2-3 days off.

The new Anki FSRS algo lessens this punishment significantly.

People focus way too much on the backlog - don't even look at it, just set your max cards per day to something you can actually DO and let Anki schedule them out as best it can.

It is, after all, just a scheduler.

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Post by skissane »

DiogenesKynikos wrote: post #417
Postosuchus wrote: post #401

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Technically Abraham, as he was the one, with whom G-d established the Covenant. Although I'm pretty sure there are lengthy disputes in Talmud arguing that it started with Adam and Hava.

I'm counting from when Yahweh declared Israel his people and handed down the Ten Commandments at Mount Sinai (all mythological, of course, though there may be some real inspiration for Exodus, like the mythological Iliad and the real city of Troy).

The problem with asking "when Judaism started", is that the religion of the Mishnah and Talmud is (very likely) so different from the religion of David and Solomon that they are arguably two different religions, even though one is a descendant of the other.

Possibly, Samaritanism is closer to the religion of the ancient Israelites than contemporary Rabbinic (or even Karaite) Judaism is.

Re: Anki – Powerful, intelligent flash cards

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Post by anigbrowl »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #351
anigbrowl wrote: post #275

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That's marketing for you - now with Genuine People Personalities™.

Who's marketing a free app with no profit motive?

Was referring to the top comment bordering on self-promotion, not the app.

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Post by kouteiheika »

jarrett-ye wrote: post #342
kouteiheika wrote: post #181

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It doesn't matter whether this actually models how memory works in reality, as long as it has actual predictive capabilities which correlate to how it works in practice. And this can be easily verified with data and simulations. The algorithm predicts how likely it is that you'll remember a given piece of information (e.g. in three days you'll remember this card with 80% probability), so if you can get a big dataset…

It's welcome to compare your algorithm with FSRS. Here is the benchmark of FSRS: https://github.com/open-spaced-repetition/fsrs-benchmark

Yes, I'll probably do that once I'm finished with the new version of my algorithm.

Re: Anki – Powerful, intelligent flash cards

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Post by DiogenesKynikos »

skissane wrote: post #427
DiogenesKynikos wrote: post #417

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I'm counting from when Yahweh declared Israel his people and handed down the Ten Commandments at Mount Sinai (all mythological, of course, though there may be some real inspiration for Exodus, like the mythological Iliad and the real city of Troy).

The problem with asking "when Judaism started", is that the religion of the Mishnah and Talmud is (very likely) so different from the religion of David and Solomon that they are arguably two different religions, even though one is a descendant of the other. Possibly , Samaritanism is closer to the religion of the ancient Israelites than contemporary Rabbinic (or even Karaite) Judaism is.

I agree with everything you've said, which is why I earlier said that Judaism is arguably younger than the 5th century BC. The real Israelites were likely not even monotheistic during the time of David and Solomon.
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