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OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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There's been rumours of AI discovering new physics on twitter as well as here on HN. "Solving equations" could mean the same thing.

SINDy does that. https://github.com/dynamicslab/pysindy

Not in any physically interesting way. This wouldn't have any chance of discovering the Yang Mills equations for example.

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Weirdly enough, this sort of lines up with a theory posted on 4chan 4 days ago. The gist being that if the version is formally declared AGI, it can't be licensed to Microsoft and others for commercial gain. As a result Altman wants it not to be called AGI, other board members do. Archived link below. NB THIS IS 4CHAN - THERE WILL OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE. https://archive.ph/sFMXa

> be me > be strong agi

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Seems like the board's mission went off the rails long ago and it acted late. Some snippets from the OpenAI website... "Investing in OpenAI Global, LLC is a high-risk investment" "Investors could lose their capital contribution and not see any return" "It would be wise to view any investment in OpenAI Global, LLC in the spirit of a donation, with the understanding that it may be difficult to know what role money will…

>It seems like you can't continue with the same mission if you're taking billions from public companies which have investors who are very much interested in profit. Why not? Public companies contribute to charities all the time.

If the stories from media and elsewhere were correct, then current and future investors (Microsoft, Thrive Capital) were pressuring OpenAI to bring back Sam. They wouldn't be doing that if they were giving to charity?

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Seems like the board's mission went off the rails long ago and it acted late. Some snippets from the OpenAI website... "Investing in OpenAI Global, LLC is a high-risk investment" "Investors could lose their capital contribution and not see any return" "It would be wise to view any investment in OpenAI Global, LLC in the spirit of a donation, with the understanding that it may be difficult to know what role money will…

>It seems like you can't continue with the same mission if you're taking billions from public companies which have investors who are very much interested in profit. Why not? Public companies contribute to charities all the time.

Not at the scale involved here.

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Weirdly enough, this sort of lines up with a theory posted on 4chan 4 days ago. The gist being that if the version is formally declared AGI, it can't be licensed to Microsoft and others for commercial gain. As a result Altman wants it not to be called AGI, other board members do. Archived link below. NB THIS IS 4CHAN - THERE WILL OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE. https://archive.ph/sFMXa

Here's my challenge: if this is correct, we then have to assume that 95% of the company is purely profit-motivated since they aligned behind Sam. I'm cynical, but I struggle to be that cynical. I would have expected a few more holdouts in the name of caution, EA, etc. Maybe it's a blindness.

I think it’s reasonable that 95% of people would choose generational wealth for their families given the opportunity.

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Put this on my tombstone after the robots kill me or whatever, but I think all “AI safety” concerns are a wild overreaction totally out of proportion to the actual capabilities of these models. I just haven’t seen anything in the past year which makes me remotely fearful about the future of humanity, including both our continued existence and our continued employment.

Apparently what made this person fearful was grade school math. "Though only performing maths on the level of grade-school students, acing such tests made researchers very optimistic about Q*’s future success, the source said."

No, what made this person fearful was a substantial jump in math ability. (Very) obviously they are not afraid of producing a machine that can multiply numbers. They’re afraid of what that capability (and especially the jump in capability) means for other behaviors.

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AI safety by the waterfall model.

But how else can we do it? We learnt how to handle other dangers by trial and error...

One approach is legal. The law is very slow to adapt, and is informed by a history of things gone wrong. The simple answer is that OpenAI has "strict liaility" (meaning they are liable even for an accident) for any damage caused by an AI, like dangerous animals that escape.

I know it seems ridiculous to consider liability when the fate of humanity may be at stake... but this is the language of companies, directors, insurance companies and legal counsel. It is language they understand.

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Exactly. The rational fear is that they will automate many lower middle class jobs and cause unemployment, not that Terminator was a documentary.

Wasn't this supposed to happen when PCs came out?

And the Loom
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