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Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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WiSaGaN wrote: post #348
anonymous_sorry wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft would at least like him not to do that job for a competitor. Given they paid for a big stake in the market leader, and their stock price movements when this drama erupted, keeping these people in-house can be seen as damage control.

Sure. But Sam Altman is an ambitious man. Why would he accept this instead of fundraising and creating another company? I think there would be more details of this arrangement surfacing these coming days. It is unlikely a traditional team within a large corporation.

Maybe he needs a salary!

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Post by GaryNumanVevo »

threeseed wrote: post #322
CSMastermind wrote: post #166

In 1990 Microsoft hired all of the important talent from Borland who up until that point had been outpacing them in terms of product development. We got Access, Visual Studio, and .Net / C# as a direct result. Borland faded into obscurity. Hard not to feel like there will be a parallel here.

Microsoft also acquired LinkedIn and Github. Both of which have been run as largely seperate entities.

Yep, if you wanted to move to MSFT from LinkedIn or vice versa, you needed to re-interview although finding a job rec and internal hiring manager was easier.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Post by realprimoh »

_mh56 wrote: post #141

[This is not in response to the satya's tweet but the general articles or opinions in social media.] Please keep in mind that the articles you read are PR pieces, last few being from Sam's Camp. msft/sequioa/khosla has no power to remove the board or alter their actions. There is no gain for board by reinstating Sam and resigning themselves. swaying employees who have 900k$ comp is pretty hard. and not giving money t…

This comment doesn't make sense to me at all. I'm not sure that this is a valid comment at all.

This is not a rumor. The article references a tweet made by Satya Nadella itself. It is an official announcement. The board drama no longer matters here.

By the way, $900k comp with illiquid OpenAI shares means nothing anymore when Microsoft can now hire them with $900k+ in fully LIQUID compensation.

Not only that, OpenAI employees can go join Microsoft to work under Sam and Greg, who many of them seem to support.

This is a pretty big win for Microsoft.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Post by ric2b »

kmlevitt wrote: post #327
_mh56 wrote: post #141

[This is not in response to the satya's tweet but the general articles or opinions in social media.] Please keep in mind that the articles you read are PR pieces, last few being from Sam's Camp. msft/sequioa/khosla has no power to remove the board or alter their actions. There is no gain for board by reinstating Sam and resigning themselves. swaying employees who have 900k$ comp is pretty hard. and not giving money t…

The whole point of this is that Microsoft doesn't even need to remove the board anymore. From their standpoint, the whole fear was openAI was about to lose a lot of their best people, including their CEO, who they had the most trusted. That would've greatly harmed their investment Now they get to have their cake and eat it too: they can keep their existing relationship with open AI and continue to get access to their…

This whole saga will be a great demonstration of how much value a CEO does or doesn't bring to a company.

I'm of the mind that CEO's are like parents, an awful CEO can cause a lot of harm but the difference between an ok CEO and an excellent one isn't that big and doesn't guarantee anything.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Post by chippiewill »

imgabe wrote: post #362
_mh56 wrote: post #141

[This is not in response to the satya's tweet but the general articles or opinions in social media.] Please keep in mind that the articles you read are PR pieces, last few being from Sam's Camp. msft/sequioa/khosla has no power to remove the board or alter their actions. There is no gain for board by reinstating Sam and resigning themselves. swaying employees who have 900k$ comp is pretty hard. and not giving money t…

This is a tweet directly from Satya Nadella. Do you think he's publicly lying in a way that would be disastrous to the company he runs?

I agree that there's 0% chance Nadella would be lying. As the CEO of a public traded company, making false statements about something like this would get him in trouble with the SEC.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Post by [deleted] »

samspenc wrote: post #209
throwaway4good wrote: post #148

Wouldn’t there be employment contracts and laws around competitive behavior that come into play here?

If Sam had left OpenAI on his own accord to do this, certainly. Since the board fired him and basically nuked his best-effort plan to return - I highly doubt that OpenAI's legal team has anything of substance here. Even if they do, I wouldn't doubt for a second that Microsoft already has its entire legal team ready to play hardball defense. Overall, a complete loss-loss for OpenAI's board. What a weekend.

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