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Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by distortionfield »

gwd wrote: post #415
all2 wrote: post #390

I'd be curious to hear about the workflows people have come up with using ChatGPT. I'm still in the realm of "I don't know how to do this" or "I forgot the exact incantation to that" or "is the an X that does Y in framework Z?"

GPT-4 is quite capable of writing function-length sections of code based only on descriptions. Either in a context where you're not sure what the a good approach is (for myself, when writing Javascript for example), or when you know what needs to be done but it's just somewhat tedious. Here's a session from me working on a side project yesterday: https://chat.openai.com/share/a6928c16-1c18-4c08-ae02-82538d... The mos…

This lines up with my general experience with it. It’s quite proficient at turning a decently detailed description into code if I give it the guard rails. I’ve compared it to having a junior developer at your disposal. They could do a lot of damage if they were given prod access but can come back with some surprisingly good results.

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by NicoJuicy »

all2 wrote: post #390

I'd be curious to hear about the workflows people have come up with using ChatGPT. I'm still in the realm of "I don't know how to do this" or "I forgot the exact incantation to that" or "is the an X that does Y in framework Z?"

I put in some code that was already done.

Ask it to document the conditions according to the code and taking into consideration the following x, y, z.

Output a raw markdown table with the columns a, b, c.

Translate column a in English between ()

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Speeds up the "document what you're doing" for management purpose, while I'm actually coding and testing out scenarios.

Tbh. I'm probably one of the few that did the coding while "doing the analysis".

Ps. It's also great for writing unit tests according to arrange, act, assert.

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by Tommstein »

tombert wrote: post #244
lopatin wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used it for the first time today too, for the same reason. It was slower and much worse at coding. I was just asking it for SQL aggregation queries and it just ignored some of my requirements for the query.

In my case, I was just asking it for a cheeky name for a talk I want to give in a few months. The suggestions it gave were of comparable quality to what I think ChatGPT would have given me.

In my experience, Bard is much, much better at creative things than at things that have correct and incorrect answers.

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by sdenton4 »

cstever wrote: post #420
rekttrader wrote: post #375

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It can... fortunately I’m a principle @ my firm... the engineers I would have needed to hire might have been preemptively replaced. My use case is a bunch of adhoc data analysis.

If junior engineers are replaced by AI, who will be the Principles @ your firm in 20 years?

ChatGPT-24, of course.

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by willdr »

mise_en_place wrote: post #397

Not a great day for the SRE/Ops folks. Please remember there are not always teams, sometimes it's just one person, who have to deal with this.

One would argue that a company this successful could hire more people so one person isn't overworked - or the dependency on the entire business...

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by ben_w »

cstever wrote: post #420
rekttrader wrote: post #375

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It can... fortunately I’m a principle @ my firm... the engineers I would have needed to hire might have been preemptively replaced. My use case is a bunch of adhoc data analysis.

If junior engineers are replaced by AI, who will be the Principles @ your firm in 20 years?

In 2003, the best AI could do was the MS Word grammar check giving unnecessary false positives about sentence fragments and Clippy asking if you wanted help writing $template[n]. 20 years from now, I would not be surprised if the job title "programmer" (etc.) goes the same way as the job title "computer".

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by chrisjc »

all2 wrote: post #390

I'd be curious to hear about the workflows people have come up with using ChatGPT. I'm still in the realm of "I don't know how to do this" or "I forgot the exact incantation to that" or "is the an X that does Y in framework Z?"

I don't know what you do for a living/hobby, or what you might be interested in using ChatGPT to do for you, but here is how I became familiar with it and integrated it into my workflow. (actually, this is true for regular copilot too)

What I'm about to say is in the context of programming. I have the tendency to get caught up in some trivial functionality, thus losing focus on the overall larger and greater objective.

If I need to create some trivial functionality, I start with unit tests and a stubbed out function (defining the shape of the input). I enumerate sufficient input/output test cases to provide context for what I want the function to do.

Then I ask copilot/ChatGPT to define the function's implementation. It sometimes takes time to tune the dialog or add some edge cases to the the test cases, but more often than not copilot comes through.

Then I'm back to focusing on the original objective. This has been a game changer for me.

(Of course you should be careful about what code is generated and what it's ultimately doing.)

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by Filligree »

lopatin wrote: post #230
tombert wrote: post #214

I used Google Bard for the first time today specifically because ChatGPT was down. It was honestly perfectly fine, but it has a slightly different tone than ChatGPT that's kind of hard to explain.

I used it for the first time today too, for the same reason. It was slower and much worse at coding. I was just asking it for SQL aggregation queries and it just ignored some of my requirements for the query.

ChatGPT was down, so of course it'd be slower. And possibly that accounts for some quality loss as well.

For a fair comparison, you probably need to try while ChatGPT is working.

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by throw555chip »

gwd wrote: post #415
all2 wrote: post #390

I'd be curious to hear about the workflows people have come up with using ChatGPT. I'm still in the realm of "I don't know how to do this" or "I forgot the exact incantation to that" or "is the an X that does Y in framework Z?"

GPT-4 is quite capable of writing function-length sections of code based only on descriptions. Either in a context where you're not sure what the a good approach is (for myself, when writing Javascript for example), or when you know what needs to be done but it's just somewhat tedious. Here's a session from me working on a side project yesterday: https://chat.openai.com/share/a6928c16-1c18-4c08-ae02-82538d... The mos…

Wow, so, you're not a DBE or DBA but are applying indexes across a database without concern because...a computer model spat out that you should?
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