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Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by jatins »

loeg wrote: post #276
weystrom wrote: post #16

> Everyone at Oxide makes $201,227 USD, regardless of location. Man I would love to work for a company like that. I don't know why more people don't set their startups like that.

Well, it's an immediate stumbling block to hiring anyone currently making more than that, such as senior engineers in the US.

That's just base salary. For Staff+ engineers making 600-700k at BigTech, it is probably still a block.

But for senior engineers at these companies, 200k is pretty competitive with the base salaries offered at those places

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by bagxrvxpepzn »

steveklabnik wrote: post #312
dustingetz wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

way better explanation than the website copy "no cables no assembly just cloud" wtf is that

Obviously different marketing copy speaks to different people. But that is referring to how, when you buy a rack from us, you don't need to put everything together and cable it all up: you pull it out of the box, plug in networking and power, boot the thing up, and you're good to go. Installation time is hours, not days or weeks, which is the norm.

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Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by cdchn »

guhidalg wrote: post #374
candiddevmike wrote: post #319

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Purchasing a ton of hardware from a startup seems extremely risky for a F100. It's one thing to be left holding the bag when a SaaS startup goes under, but when you just spent millions on gear that is now completely unsupported... eek. I'd be curious to see what companies are interested, Oxide doesn't have any logos on their website which is a little odd given the space.

F100 waste so many millions already on projects that never see the light of day, why couldn't they throw money at Oxide and see if it works better than their AWS contract?

Megacorp Boondoggles sounds like a lucrative market.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by loeg »

jatins wrote: post #421
loeg wrote: post #276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, it's an immediate stumbling block to hiring anyone currently making more than that, such as senior engineers in the US.

That's just base salary. For Staff+ engineers making 600-700k at BigTech, it is probably still a block. But for senior engineers at these companies, 200k is pretty competitive with the base salaries offered at those places

I don't understand why you would compare total compensation at Oxide with base salary at other employers? Total compensation is the relevant figure across the board, and senior (as in, experienced, not some specific levels.fyi tier) engineers often make significantly more than $201,000.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by parasubvert »

flumpcakes wrote: post #278

I think a lot of commenters here have little experience with hyper-converged infrastructure if they don't see this is different. This looks, by far, the simplest way to run workloads outside of the big cloud providers (AWS, Azure, GCP). It seems they only support up to virtual machines but this is still miles ahead of VMWare, Nutanix, or CISCO ACI to my eyes. This honestly looks simple enough that a developer/DevOps…

I have a lot of experience with hyper-converged infrastructure. "Miles ahead" how? Oxide's control plane barely competes on basic functionality that OpenStack had 13 years ago, let alone VMware which is miles ahead of OpenStack. The hope is that the simplicity in hardware and network/storage/compute architecture will drive dividends as they improve their control plane software.

I don't discount that it's a great achievement towards simplicity in the racking approach for rack-scale use cases (having lived through Dell VxRack's nonsense), but let's not kid ourselves that any DevOps team could manage this - do they understand BGP peering? Three phase power requirements? Cooling? ZFS? How about basic maintenance migrations ala Vmotion or DRS? (kidding! they can't do it)

If you don't think Oxide will require an ops team, you may be wish projecting.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by cdchn »

closeparen wrote: post #416
keepamovin wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly, man! That's the way it should be done. It's not a company's business to decide how much your life should cost. It's its business to reward you for the value you provide, and that value is not tethered to your location, so neither should be your salary!

Location independence is not the interesting part of Oxide’s compensation strategy. It’s that everyone makes exactly the same. There are no negotiations, no levels, no promotions, and consequently no promo packets or promo projects. This is extremely enticing to FAANG types who are tired of a certain kind of bullshit, at the cost of a certain level of ambition.

Selecting for lack of ambition may have some negative consequences on your businesses' ambition.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by pxc »

fefe23 wrote: post #11

This is actually a pretty big deal. They sell servers, but as a finished product. Not as a cobbled together mess of third party stuff where the vendor keeps shrugging if there is an integration problem. They integrated it. It comes with all the features they expect you to want if you wanted to build your own cloud. Also, they wrote the software. And it's all open source. So no "sorry but the third party vendor droppe…

> Ironically this looks like the realization of Richard Stallman's dream where users can help each other if something doesn't work.

How is it ironic?

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by omneity »

flumpcakes wrote: post #278

I think a lot of commenters here have little experience with hyper-converged infrastructure if they don't see this is different. This looks, by far, the simplest way to run workloads outside of the big cloud providers (AWS, Azure, GCP). It seems they only support up to virtual machines but this is still miles ahead of VMWare, Nutanix, or CISCO ACI to my eyes. This honestly looks simple enough that a developer/DevOps…

This point is understated. One of the main reasons cloud is so attractive to executives is the smaller devops footprint compared to a traditional on-premise deployment.

A solution as lightweight on operations as Oxide challenges this premise at its core and assuming the capex is not outrageously high, it might suddenly get very attractive.

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