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For many home-schoolers, parents are no longer doing the teaching

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“They have no oversight, no taxpayer accountability, no academic or curriculum standards,” said Beth Lewis, director of Save Our Schools Arizona, a public school advocacy group. “We don’t know what kids are learning.” The irony is deep with this one. It could be rephrased “They are not recognising our gatekeeper status nor participating in our bureaucratic processes and frankly that is just not fair. We especially ob…

" If we look at what goes on in other countries, the U.S. stands out as the anomaly. When other countries allow homeschooling, they regulate it much more strictly. They demand that parents show they are qualified to teach and that they turn in the curricula they plan to use. Other countries impose home-visit requirements, which are both a protection against child maltreatment and also a check on whether the parents are actually providing the education they say they are." The Harvard Gazette: "A warning on homeschooling" https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/05/law-school-pr...

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“They have no oversight, no taxpayer accountability, no academic or curriculum standards,” said Beth Lewis, director of Save Our Schools Arizona, a public school advocacy group. “We don’t know what kids are learning.” The irony is deep with this one. It could be rephrased “They are not recognising our gatekeeper status nor participating in our bureaucratic processes and frankly that is just not fair. We especially ob…

" If we look at what goes on in other countries, the U.S. stands out as the anomaly. When other countries allow homeschooling, they regulate it much more strictly. They demand that parents show they are qualified to teach and that they turn in the curricula they plan to use. Other countries impose home-visit requirements, which are both a protection against child maltreatment and also a check on whether the parents a…

> If we look at what goes on in other countries,

classic (deliberate) oversight in all comparative political studies in the US: there are 180 other countries. of course YOUR country will always be an outlier compared to some other countries

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As a child in a public school, you have no right to freedom of association, and no right to freedom from association. Your school chooses your classes, and the state will use violence to ensure you attend those classes, bully or not. In home school, there is less people and more choice. There are no perverse incentives that value attendance over education and health.

> In home school, there is less people and more choice. I think you meant "there are fewer people." Were you home schooled? Perhaps public school English would have been a better option.

Haha no, I learned English as she is spoke at a California Distinguished School. They taught English using the whole language method, because learning grammar is literally unimportant to learning language. I’m sure you can see how good I learned in thirteen years of public school.

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“They have no oversight, no taxpayer accountability, no academic or curriculum standards,” said Beth Lewis, director of Save Our Schools Arizona, a public school advocacy group. “We don’t know what kids are learning.” The irony is deep with this one. It could be rephrased “They are not recognising our gatekeeper status nor participating in our bureaucratic processes and frankly that is just not fair. We especially ob…

" If we look at what goes on in other countries, the U.S. stands out as the anomaly. When other countries allow homeschooling, they regulate it much more strictly. They demand that parents show they are qualified to teach and that they turn in the curricula they plan to use. Other countries impose home-visit requirements, which are both a protection against child maltreatment and also a check on whether the parents a…

France has very strict regulations regarding homeschooling, but i wouldn't consider that a win. The official program, whether in schools or in homeschooling still lacks many things and still contains various forms of historical propaganda for the horrors of the french Empire.

While private catholic schools that people pay thousands of euros for are silently allowed to spew homophobic/creationist propaganda, it's become much harder for anarchist parents to teach their kids at home or together.

Personally i still think anti-authoritarian schools (like Montessori) are much better than homeschooling, but i don't think war against homeschooling is a good thing, especially when it's done at the same time that public services are slowly being disfunded/dismantled to their slow and painful death.

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In home school, there is less people and more choice. Choice for whom, the student or the teacher? The teachers are the ones with the agendas, in all senses of the word.

No parent's agenda is for their child to be kicked around by another kid.

School often serves as a release from parents' social machinations to let you find your own friends from a sampling of the general public.

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I was home schooled back in 2001. My parents didn't do the teaching, instead, we had a satellite dish that we installed to pick up some conservative right wing curriculum and recorded it on VHS tapes that I was supposed to watch.

I didn't actually watch most of it, I'd usually fast forward through it and spend my time watching local news channels instead. My real education at the time was coming from the hands on experiences I had in real life, which was far more useful (and less propaganda-filled) than any curriculum could have been.

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Why shouldn’t the government have a say in what is taught to children? Children are not their parent’s property. These are future citizens and I would prefer that society has a say in what is taught to them. In a democratic system the government represents the will of the society.

Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what is for dinner.

This hasn't been true in the U.S. for a century when the house reapportionment act was passed. Now the strongest voice the majority has is in the Senate. The body that was designed to give voice to the minority.

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Home schooling is a real burden on many parents who aren't professional teachers of course and are pulled in many directions. One of the most exciting emerging trends in home schooling is to pool the resources of multiple home schooling parents. It's simply not practical for parents to commit all the hours needed for full time home schooling 9 till 3:30PM every day. So home schooling parents can team up and share the…

One of the very first things i learned when i began homeschooling was that 9 to 3:30 schooling simply exists for parents work schedules. We can typically knock out our school day in 2 to 3 hours altogether. Granted, my kids are still elementary age

I'm not sure that's really true. 9 to 3:30 existed when housewives were the norm (which was only one or two generations ago). It's clearly not ideal for working parents because most jobs won't let you finish work at 3:30!

Also consider school holidays. How many jobs let you take 12 weeks of holiday a year?

I've asked loads of working parents how they deal with that and the answer is always "it's impossible, you have to use grandparents, scrounge together enough holiday, try to take unpaid leave, etc.".

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As a parent and former child, I truly appreciate the work the author has done. If only I had such a creative environment during my childhood...

Discussing bullying here is off-topic, in my opinion. Bullies are seldom part of such creative environments unless forced. They will not focus on these creative topics; instead, they will seek a victim to establish dominance, which does not necessitate participation in communal creative activities.

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