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Post by aerique »

WalterBright wrote: post #301
lolive wrote: post #160

Went to his website. There was an interview of him from 2022. The answer that really stroke me was not about Vim, but about software craftmanship vs professional programming: « I have been working for a company where quite a few managers, educated in physics and mechanics, thought the software was just the same as what they knew and they could decide how to make it. That company went downhill and was eventually taken…

I understand wanting to write beautiful code, it's a major motivator for me. But it does have to actually do something useful - or there's no point.

But that's the whole point, isn't it?

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Post by herewulf »

Thank you for everything, Bram. Your legacy will live far, far beyond you. Farewell.

And on an old programming forum (where I wrote all my posts with the Vimperator external editor feature -- in Vim, of course), so my signature went.. :wq

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Post by fragmede »

herewulf wrote: post #423

Thank you for everything, Bram. Your legacy will live far, far beyond you. Farewell. And on an old programming forum (where I wrote all my posts with the Vimperator external editor feature -- in Vim, of course), so my signature went.. :wq

:x

Of course, the truely old school will point out that vi doesn't have :x and that its vim that does. Thanks Bram.

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Post by soulofmischief »

tonywoode wrote: post #415
soulofmischief wrote: post #317

Sharing a piece of advice Bram gave to me once: " It appears you think that everybody is like you. But that's not so. " I didn't take the advice well at the time, but now, a little older and wiser, I understand. Thank you, Bram. Thank you for vim, for your time and dedication, and for taking the time to deposit a small amount of your wisdom into my brain. Sorry for being a dick.

classic line. Do you think he'll be remembered for his struggles with the perils of open source feature requests, as well as for vim itself? Largley because of the keybindings, Vim was a perfect storm for this: maybe the epitaph is "he could never figure out how to quit vim either". +1 for the Moolenaar award to show appreciation for people whilst they're still alive and coping with the rest of us all being dicks....

If his epitaph isn't something along the lines of ":wq", I'd be very disappointed.

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Post by cloudedcordial »

anon432q wrote: post #409
kmarc wrote: post #372

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Bram changed the lives and careers of so many of us True. > [...] he was humble, brilliant, helpful, and took his craft as seriously as anyone I've ever heard of I start to think that this is not a coincidence. These excellent people, the "brilliant, but humble" ones are the ones that changed my (and possibly others') lives and careers. Mr Moolenaar, many other FOSS devs (maintainers), university professors (I'm su…

My personal theory is that "humble" people are more open to ideas and collaboration with others. I've seen too many people with big egos who stagnate as developers. They were the top of their class in school and were used to being the "smartest" in the room. When they start working, they often make a toxic work environment and can be a huge negative impact. Unfortunately their confidence makes them more appealing to…

This message, whether in the context of Bram Moolenaar or not, rings a bell. Academic education does not necessarily give credit to the humble and the team players. The top folks from school are not necessarily doing impactful things later in life.

Re: Bram Moolenaar has died

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Post by cloudedcordial »

fb03 wrote: post #368

Omg.... his Github contribution graph made me cry so hard right now. It was like he was fading away slowly. You'll probably get emotional as I did if you click on this: https://github.com/brammool

:'( I won't be surprised if he knew about the illness for more than a month but kept the diagnosis private decided to work until the very end.

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Post by jaystraw »

I can't access the group, but MK Productions' Killer Bob Saget 2000 changed my life, as a 10 year old learning QBASIC in the 90's. Then seeing his name again as I learned Vim as a young adult. Wow. I'm 37 but never thought he could've been much older than me. RIP, so much respect.

Re: Bram Moolenaar has died

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Post by 1letterunixname »

Exoristos wrote: post #333
1letterunixname wrote: post #318

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've worked with enough "professional" programmers to know I don't want to work with them and their sloppy, reckless, uncurious, and inconsiderate ways.

So what do you do for a living?

Well from your low karma, I know you're a troll.
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