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Re: Kevin Mitnick has died

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Post by logicchains »

lynx23 wrote: post #413
vintagedave wrote: post #406

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have been downvoted, but I'm not sure that's reasonable. While doctors do generally do their best, sometimes medical care is not ideal. Your point though seems to be rooted in what happened to you as a child. I'm sorry to hear it. Could you share something about what happened please?

I expected nothing else but downvotes. It is pretty representative for the times that peopel can not stand viewpoints which do not align with their own. And no, I am not going to post my personal medical history on HN in detail. My short description of the incident is already personal enough. Besides, what would that help? Everyone picks their own convenient opinion these days, all that can come out of this is that p…

Statistically, medical error is the third leading cause of death in America, so it's not surprising.

Re: Kevin Mitnick has died

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Post by bussiere »

Fuck ...

He was kind of role model for me, i was inspired by the way he saw the world, in everything he was able to see hole and flaw and how to exploit them. Where "normal" people just don't think about it.

His stories and mischiefs will be missed for me.

Re: Kevin Mitnick has died

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Post by lynx23 »

logicchains wrote: post #421
lynx23 wrote: post #413

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I expected nothing else but downvotes. It is pretty representative for the times that peopel can not stand viewpoints which do not align with their own. And no, I am not going to post my personal medical history on HN in detail. My short description of the incident is already personal enough. Besides, what would that help? Everyone picks their own convenient opinion these days, all that can come out of this is that p…

Statistically, medical error is the third leading cause of death in America, so it's not surprising.

I am aware how dangerous it is to completely and utterly give oneself up to the medical system. Those without experience dont want to believe this for the sake of their own feeling of comfort and safety.

Re: Kevin Mitnick has died

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Post by withinboredom »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #193

I was not aware he was ill. Always sad to hear people that are taken by cancer. I didn't know Kevin, but am friends with Tsutomu Shimomura who worked with authorities to get him arrested. Tsutomu worked with me a bit when I was at Sun trying to get a cryptographically secure subsystem into the base system specification. It was fun to listen to his side of this story. The 80's was a really weird time for computer enth…

Pro-tip: CFAA only applies if you cross state lines between you and the server. Otherwise, state laws applies and there are/were some states that never passed any 'anti-hacking' laws.

Source: experience.

Re: Kevin Mitnick has died

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Post by giamma »

anon_tech wrote: post #372
josh2600 wrote: post #48

Mitnick was a hacker hero of mine in my youth. I think I’ve understood his role as jester prior to conviction less as I’ve grown older, but there’s something about the boyhood charm of being so divorced from the potential consequences of one’s actions that is almost unique. Mitnick had so many stories that entranced the people around him. I heard one second hand of Mitnick dealing with a bank who had early voice veri…

there is a bank in Italy currently that uses this voice recognition mechanism which with current AI tech is fakeable within 20 min. Nothing much changed since back then I guess

I know a Bank in Italy that uses voice recognition but you also have to provide 2 digits from a "voice password" in addition to the voice match.

Re: Kevin Mitnick has died

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Post by glimshe »

mcv wrote: post #415
ChuckMcM wrote: post #193

I was not aware he was ill. Always sad to hear people that are taken by cancer. I didn't know Kevin, but am friends with Tsutomu Shimomura who worked with authorities to get him arrested. Tsutomu worked with me a bit when I was at Sun trying to get a cryptographically secure subsystem into the base system specification. It was fun to listen to his side of this story. The 80's was a really weird time for computer enth…

> I was not aware he was ill. Always sad to hear people that are taken by cancer. It was pancreatic cancer, which is the deadliest cancer. It kills very quickly and as far as I know, it's impossible to cure. It killed my mom: 3 months between diagnosis and death. She didn't want treatment because it couldn't save her; it would only postpone the inevitable and she didn't want to spend the rest of her days in hospitals…

I'm sorry to hear about your mom. It's not impossible to cure, but it's very uncommon. I think that if it is caught early, only 10% of people eventually become disease-free.

Re: Kevin Mitnick has died

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Post by Gordonjcp »

anon_tech wrote: post #372
josh2600 wrote: post #48

Mitnick was a hacker hero of mine in my youth. I think I’ve understood his role as jester prior to conviction less as I’ve grown older, but there’s something about the boyhood charm of being so divorced from the potential consequences of one’s actions that is almost unique. Mitnick had so many stories that entranced the people around him. I heard one second hand of Mitnick dealing with a bank who had early voice veri…

there is a bank in Italy currently that uses this voice recognition mechanism which with current AI tech is fakeable within 20 min. Nothing much changed since back then I guess

About 15 years ago I was using telephone banking, when you had to put in a 4-digit PIN to access banking. I could still hear background call centre noise so I asked the operator if they were still on the phone when I put the PIN in, and he confirmed he was.

"Okay, so you heard me type in the PIN? So now you can know my PIN?"

"Oh no", he said, "it's just beeps, like this - ", and pressed a few digits.

"Right so you typed 1 6 3 2 4, there."

"..."

"That's what you typed, isn't it?"

"Uhm... yes, how did you guess?"

"I didn't guess, I could hear the beeps. I've got a reasonable ear for pitch, so I can tell what the numbers are from the tones. Any chance you could escalate this to your manager after the call, and tell them to give me a phone if they've any questions?"

They rang me the next day, and I explained the situation to them.

Now, at least in the UK, you get transferred away from the call handler when you put your PIN in.

Re: Kevin Mitnick has died

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Post by glimshe »

jonhohle wrote: post #89
pc86 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> a 57-year-old man in the US has only a 50% chance of living to see their child reach 23 years of age Perhaps a clearer way to put it: a 57-year-old man in the US has a 50% chance of living to 80, which doesn't seem quite as shocking of a statement.

How many men are having their first child at 57? I’ll be well under 57 when my oldest child is 23.

Interestingly, I'll be 57 when my child is 23.
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