Constant billboards ruins scenery.
Sao Paulo: A city with no outdoor advertisements (2013)
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Re: Sao Paulo: A city with no outdoor advertisements (2013)
#422I've been visiting sp since 2005, i eventually moved there '09 and lived there till '23. I remember the pre-06 cityscape. You were bombarded by visual ads in the 100s every half hour. It was absurd. Most of the buildings were absolutely covered in low-effort graffiti, callef pixação or pixo (pronounced peeshu). Since then there really has been a flourishing of murals and street art. The quality and quantity are flabberghasting. It added a lot to the sense of discovery while out exploring a new corner of the city and sense of place for places one returns to. Many of the artists like veracidade became close to household names. Overall it was a wonderful change whose impacts subtly changed the atmosphere of the city, making it much more livable. The only problem was in the liberdade neighborhood, home to the japanese disapora of the early 20th century: their local business depended on kanji signs hanging off the facades of the buildings. After the law change the neighborhood's economy sorta collapsed for a while, but is now recovering.
Re: Sao Paulo: A city with no outdoor advertisements (2013)
#423Earlier quoted context omitted.
This really stretches the meaning of propaganda almost to the point where it's synonymous with individual speech. Propaganda is systematic opinion making where some group does things like call tons of people or distribute tons of leaflets, or astroturf internet forums. It's not the same thing as putting up a mural on a building you own, or a sign in your yard. I think a mural could be part of a propaganda campaign, b…
> it's synonymous with individual speech. Graffiti is individual speech, murals commissioned by the local government to glorify itself are not.
Are these the majority of the murals and are they clearly Pro-government? I can't even find one example of what you might be talking about. This seems like a total non-issue.
Re: Sao Paulo: A city with no outdoor advertisements (2013)
#424That is a minor thing, but I would love if people spelled our words right. The city is called "São Paulo", not "Sao Paulo", which makes for a completely different pronunciation. I get that they may not know how to type it, but anyone can copy and paste from Wikipedia.
Remember that they are not typing in Portuguese, and in other languages places have other names/spellings.
I say this as a Brazilian myself, who is fond of the original spelling.
I live in Scandinavia, and do you feel it is fair for me to criticize you for writing Gotemburgo and not Göteborg, or Copenhague and not København?
The article is in English, the conversation is in English, and like it or not places like São Paulo are spelled without diacritics in English.
Or should an article in Portuguese in a Brazilian newspaper write Deutschland instead of Alemanha?
Re: Sao Paulo: A city with no outdoor advertisements (2013)
#425That is a minor thing, but I would love if people spelled our words right. The city is called "São Paulo", not "Sao Paulo", which makes for a completely different pronunciation. I get that they may not know how to type it, but anyone can copy and paste from Wikipedia.
Remember that they are not typing in Portuguese, and in other languages places have other names/spellings. I say this as a Brazilian myself, who is fond of the original spelling. I live in Scandinavia, and do you feel it is fair for me to criticize you for writing Gotemburgo and not Göteborg, or Copenhague and not København? The article is in English, the conversation is in English, and like it or not places like São…
> Or should an article in Portuguese in a Brazilian newspaper write Deutschland instead of Alemanha?
What bizarre examples, those are entirely different words, I'm talking about a minor difference in acentuation. And I don't care what the rule is, it's disrespectful, it's an article, and copy and paste exists.
They even do it with proper names. You don't change proper names. The name is "Pelé", not "skin". So disrespectful.
Re: Sao Paulo: A city with no outdoor advertisements (2013)
#426Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think only the owners and the advertisers like it. Would a couple high power microwave transmitters pointed at it be able to increase maintenance cost enough for them to give up?
Someone here on HN once floated the idea of someone taking a paintball gun and going to town on these obnoxious billboards. Truly the hero we need right now. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28969142
Extra points if they dress as a bat.
Re: Sao Paulo: A city with no outdoor advertisements (2013)
#427Earlier quoted context omitted.
Remember that they are not typing in Portuguese, and in other languages places have other names/spellings. I say this as a Brazilian myself, who is fond of the original spelling. I live in Scandinavia, and do you feel it is fair for me to criticize you for writing Gotemburgo and not Göteborg, or Copenhague and not København? The article is in English, the conversation is in English, and like it or not places like São…
> Or should an article in Portuguese in a Brazilian newspaper write Deutschland instead of Alemanha? What bizarre examples, those are entirely different words, I'm talking about a minor difference in acentuation. And I don't care what the rule is, it's disrespectful, it's an article, and copy and paste exists. They even do it with proper names. You don't change proper names. The name is "Pelé", not "skin". So disresp…
Let is keep it to South America then.
Do you think you're disrespectful when you write "Peru" (Portuguese dropped the diacritic from "Perú") or "Colômbia" (now we added a diacritic that is not in the original "Colombia")? What about "Paraguai": why is "Paraguay" so hard to type that we had to change it?
And this is coming from a sister language, Spanish.
I think you're not paying attention to how languages work.
Re: Sao Paulo: A city with no outdoor advertisements (2013)
#428Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Or should an article in Portuguese in a Brazilian newspaper write Deutschland instead of Alemanha? What bizarre examples, those are entirely different words, I'm talking about a minor difference in acentuation. And I don't care what the rule is, it's disrespectful, it's an article, and copy and paste exists. They even do it with proper names. You don't change proper names. The name is "Pelé", not "skin". So disresp…
Let is keep it to South America then. Do you think you're disrespectful when you write "Peru" (Portuguese dropped the diacritic from "Perú") or "Colômbia" (now we added a diacritic that is not in the original "Colombia")? What about "Paraguai": why is "Paraguay" so hard to type that we had to change it? And this is coming from a sister language, Spanish. I think you're not paying attention to how languages work.
I don't think you understand how copy and paste works... if the English Wikipedia can do it, I think article writers can do as well.