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dotnet00 wrote: post #416
mullingitover wrote: post #93

I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

I feel like this has been being said repeatedly (remember the "Twitter will irrecoverably go down any day this week!" craze from late last year after the layoffs?) and yet hasn't really materialized in a meaningful sense. Sure, the fediverse has been growing, but most users haven't left Twitter, they've just also made an account on the fediverse. I don't see how this will be any different. It's already normal for peo…

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Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by wahahah »

dotnet00 wrote: post #416
mullingitover wrote: post #93

I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

I feel like this has been being said repeatedly (remember the "Twitter will irrecoverably go down any day this week!" craze from late last year after the layoffs?) and yet hasn't really materialized in a meaningful sense. Sure, the fediverse has been growing, but most users haven't left Twitter, they've just also made an account on the fediverse. I don't see how this will be any different. It's already normal for peo…

600 post views per day qualifies pretty close to "irrecoverably down" for me.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by vlunkr »

m3kw9 wrote: post #394

I’m calling it, network effects are very hard to overcome. Users with thousands of follows will have to wait a loooong time to have Threads side to catch up. In the mean time they will absolutely use Twitter along with Threads and the one likely getting abandoned is Threads. New users will find empty content, mostly discussions that are already on twitter but at a small scale and reach

There are already more people on instagram than twitter, so the network effect is already in their favor.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by chromakode »

lxgr wrote: post #281
frogulis wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Videos not being trackable is such a perplexing one. Is it intended to keep the user watching longer by forcing them to re-watch the whole video if they want to see something again?

Given that Youtube copied it for their "shorts" clone of TikTok/Reels, it must be working for the platforms...

YouTube shorts are seekable.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by Shawnj2 »

ygouzerh wrote: post #408
john_max_1 wrote: post #172

When was the last time, Facebook launched a successful standalone product? - WhatsApp - acqusition - Instagram - acquistion - Messenger - acquisition - Oculus - acquisition Facebook has DNA to optimize feeds. It, simply, lack the DNA to build good products from scratch. My gut feeling no one will care about Threads, 6 months from now. EDIT: - Facebook was all-in on cryptocurrencies. The project is fully gone. - Faceb…

I will do the counter-argument: this app is from Instagram, so it might have an higher success rate. To have worked in big corporate, new products are often entirely managed by a division, and only a reporting is done to the central entity.

Also worth nothing Instagram has been pretty good at eating other apps’s lunch, specifically Snapchat and later TikTok. Obviously Snapchat and TikTok are still things and are quite popular but the instagram versions of those features are quite good and the network effect is important.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by thereare5lights »

TheCleric wrote: post #367
dhruval wrote: post #226

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I am willing to take the other side of this bet. Not because I love twitter but rather because of the following 1.Network effects are just that powerful. 2. This looks like a group chat killer rather than a Twitter killer. So I think the blue bird will go on to live a rather long life.

The blue bird is going to die soon with Musk at the helm. He only seems to make decisions in the dumbest and most haphazard ways possible. That's not to say that something else will kill it. It's more likely that for most folks, they'll just stop or shift to something different that's not like Twitter (e.g., Instagram).

Every day Musk brings Twitter closer and closer to 4chan. It's only a matter of time before the whole rotten house collapses.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by pgayed »

dmix wrote: post #400
pgayed wrote: post #395

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Interactions on Meta follow “proximity”-based neighborhood customs (birthdays, pictures of kids, social flexing, vacations). Polite society dinner talk. You do not need to be followed on Meta, only liked. Interactions on Twitter follow “rules” of interest-based disputes and discussion (sports, finance, AI dooming, technology predictions). You do not need to be liked on Twitter, only followed.

So basically like predicting Instagram will destroy Snap/Tiktok by cloning features like stories? One of those HN threads you see people bookmark and bring up years later to show HN's competence at prediction using only the current day market players which they glibly generalize as generic pools of social media users going to these sites for their feature sets, like buying CDs of software by looking at the back cover…

Yes, agreed. HN archetype usually predicts failure of the introduced product or its irrelevance.

But maybe it goes the other way with clones. (“[Original thing] doesn't stand a chance. Releasing [Clone] will totally kill the userbase.”)

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by vegcel »

LudwigNagasena wrote: post #427

If people didn’t abandon Twitter for Facebook posts, why would they flee to Instagram Threads?

A few reasons I could see

1.) Instagram brand is much stronger than Facebooks 2.) Instagram follows some similar design and user experience patterns to twitter, i.e. username based account, people using stories a lot of times as mostly a text based posting platform, etc 3.) Celebrities and newspeople already use instagram for updates, so the transition would be natural 4.) Twitter has never been in a weaker position with the site being limited

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Post by thereare5lights »

irishloop wrote: post #104
tomger wrote: post #19

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You probably don’t want this as that would end in Embrace, extend, and extinguish.

React?

This could spin off into its own post.

My own thoughts on this is that React has morphed into a something is even harder to use than Angular 1.0

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