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Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by mtsr »

gretch wrote: post #357
PheonixPharts wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm always a bit surprised how few people realized how many "nice things" from the last decade plus have been heavily subsidized by VC money (which itself was created from low interest rates). Every cool startup that people loved started by burning cash. This made Uber cheap, DoorDash cheap, Youtube helpful and creative, Facebook about connecting with classmates, Twitter a free public forum, Reddit a playground for f…

> we were putting everything on a credit card and not worrying about the bill that eventually had to be paid We (consumers) didn't put anything on a CC. VCs did. And I count that for the blessing it was. I ordered tons of subsidized food on DoorDash, cheap rides on Uber, etc. Now that golden era is over, and I will not be ordering any more of that stuff at the now exorbitant prices. Thank you based VCs, for comping a…

Except a lot of the formers ways of doing things / getting things have been pushed out of the market with all the capital influx. So there aren’t any small stores anymore, small restaurants don’t do delivery anymore, etc etc.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by zimpenfish »

csiegert wrote: post #190
throw2022110401 wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are literally throwing away revenue with every denied impression. An act of desperation obviously. My take: they broke something and need to shed load to keep the site running. The "extreme scraping" thing is the usual Musk BS.

I find the scraping explanation plausible. Some search engine bots are aggressive. With all the AI hype, I first thought of Microsoft Bing scraping Twitter at full datacenter speed to suck in more information for OpenAI.

> I find the scraping explanation plausible.

How do you explain it suddenly being a problem today and not, say, during the recent World Cup when not only the AI scraping would have been happening but el Morko himself was crowing about how much extra traffic they were handling?

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by minimaxir »

jklinger410 wrote: post #406
user_named wrote: post #230

This is hilarious. It appears that Twitter is DDOSing itself. The Twitter home feed's been down for most of this morning. Even though nothing loads, the Twitter website never stops trying and trying. In the first video, notice the error message that I'm being rate limited. Then notice the jiggling scrollbar on the right. The second video shows why it's jiggling. Twitter is firing off about 10 requests a second to its…

> Twitter is firing off about 10 requests a second to itself to try and fetch content that never arrives because Elon's latest genius innovation is to block people from being able to read Twitter without logging in. Hey, just as an FYI, this comment doesn't make any sense. Why would blocking people from viewing the TL on the home page cause Twitter more stress?

Broken retry logic due to an unexpected situation.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by victorbjorklund »

x86x87 wrote: post #148
victorbjorklund wrote: post #113

This is just insane. He really wanna take this app to zero users. Can't believe there exists people who think Elon is smart.

People are not unidimensional creatures. It's possible to be smart when it comes to certain things and a complete dumbass for ALL other things.

Yea. Perhaps elon is good at other things than sound business decisions.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by plorkyeran »

dylan604 wrote: post #387
NelsonMinar wrote: post #354

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe she gets a horse.

No, every girl wants a pony, not a horse.

This is presumably a reference to Musk offering to buy a SpaceX employee a horse in exchange for sexual favors.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by adamwk »

jklinger410 wrote: post #406
user_named wrote: post #230

This is hilarious. It appears that Twitter is DDOSing itself. The Twitter home feed's been down for most of this morning. Even though nothing loads, the Twitter website never stops trying and trying. In the first video, notice the error message that I'm being rate limited. Then notice the jiggling scrollbar on the right. The second video shows why it's jiggling. Twitter is firing off about 10 requests a second to its…

> Twitter is firing off about 10 requests a second to itself to try and fetch content that never arrives because Elon's latest genius innovation is to block people from being able to read Twitter without logging in. Hey, just as an FYI, this comment doesn't make any sense. Why would blocking people from viewing the TL on the home page cause Twitter more stress?

It could be retry logic that gets stuck in certain conditions that have been met by how TL blocking is handled.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by dan-robertson »

Maxion wrote: post #417
jklinger410 wrote: post #406

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Twitter is firing off about 10 requests a second to itself to try and fetch content that never arrives because Elon's latest genius innovation is to block people from being able to read Twitter without logging in. Hey, just as an FYI, this comment doesn't make any sense. Why would blocking people from viewing the TL on the home page cause Twitter more stress?

> Why would blocking people from viewing the TL on the home page cause Twitter more stress? If you block stuff somewhere in the microservie hell in the backend, but forget to update the frontend code properly, and everything was built with the assumption that authentication and authorization is not a thing, and suddenly it is, there's bound to be craploads of stuff that can start spamming network requests.

I don’t think ‘built with the assumption that authentication and authorisation is not a thing’ is the best description. Requests from logged in users would already need to be authenticated to see private accounts they follow. It’s more just the client having aggressive retry logic in the case of whatever rate limit responses they’re getting.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by ben_w »

jklinger410 wrote: post #406
user_named wrote: post #230

This is hilarious. It appears that Twitter is DDOSing itself. The Twitter home feed's been down for most of this morning. Even though nothing loads, the Twitter website never stops trying and trying. In the first video, notice the error message that I'm being rate limited. Then notice the jiggling scrollbar on the right. The second video shows why it's jiggling. Twitter is firing off about 10 requests a second to its…

> Twitter is firing off about 10 requests a second to itself to try and fetch content that never arrives because Elon's latest genius innovation is to block people from being able to read Twitter without logging in. Hey, just as an FYI, this comment doesn't make any sense. Why would blocking people from viewing the TL on the home page cause Twitter more stress?

10 If User has reached end of scroll region, load more content

20 Wait $timeout for new content; if a load failed, it was probably a mobile network glitch or something else we should ignore

30 GOTO 10

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by dylan604 »

anigbrowl wrote: post #412
dylan604 wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Googs has showed us in the past it is unable to make a product that people want to use, and that they have no stomach for a slow grind to get a product to beat the establishment.

au contraire , they can definitely make products people like but then insist on either ruining them or shutting them down.

fine, I'll rephrase: social products. Remember Google+? You and 10 other people do. Most people's memory of Google+ was how to avoid it after it became a mandatory thing for all gmail users, and then it was just gone. So yeah, people really liked that product

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by dspillett »

SamReidHughes wrote: post #403
user_named wrote: post #293

Reminder that Elon didn't even intend to buy Twitter He wanted to sell ~$2.5 Billion Tesla stock at all-time highs without causing the stock price to significantly deflate, so he used the Twitter purchase suggestion as a cover. He did similar pump and dump schemes with crypto - like Dogecoin - but because Elon is fundamentally a dumb guy, he did the extraordinarily stupid thing of signing a purchase agreement with Tw…

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