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There has been a constant stream of negative top HN posts about Reddit for a few weeks now, even if they often get manually pushed down from the front page. Was there ever a comparable shitstorm on HN against a big corp? Will this go down as the fastest suicide of a social media company?
Twitter and Facebook still seem to be doing okay.
The cycle continues.
I wipe my comments about every 6 months. Not just delete, I overwrite them and then purge them with one of those browser scripts. Looking back, it appears my history has been completely restored going back 5 years. Beyond 5 years, they are still deleted.
Yea.. this is why you don't delete, because god knows it isn't actually deleted. You edit, and even then it's as crapshoot because it might not be gone. If they store versions of old comments then even editing wouldn't help (which tbh, would make sense in case there were ban-worthy content being hidden via edit) . Plus of course the rest of the internet still likely has your deleted/edited comment. So nothing public…
In https://mastodon.social/@ashe__/110553872844888220 it was reported that they undid edits too.
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> But there comes a point where these online services have to make money. Reddit is 18 old, and you're telling me that they are just thinking about making money now ? How come 4chan and Wikipedia are both profitable, but not Reddit? And how is it a problem with their users and not their management?
> How come 4chan and Wikipedia are both profitable, but not Reddit reddit has 1.7 billion visits per month[5], with an astronomical amount of persistent storage, with the content never being deleted. reddit is ranked #18 globally. 4chan has 51 million visits per month[4], has very little persistent storage (posts are deleted once the thread slides to the bottom of the board list), and strict size limits for the posts…
This has an impact on their costs, but in an ad-driven business, it increases their revenues by as much.
> with an astronomical amount of persistent storage, with the content never being deleted
I'd like to know the actual amount of storage, but I really doubt it is actually “astronomical” (unlike Youtube).
Moreover, I suspect that the biggest part of that storage is actually video, which isn't really where the value (for the users at least) is.
Overall, if their costs are to high compare to other players their revenues, it's first and foremost a management and cost effectiveness issue, not a lack of revenues.
Hanlon's razor. Anyone who has used Reddit for any period of time (or basically any similar site, which includes FB, Twitter, and even HN), has seen data consistency issues during high load (like periods of activism). Shards die or fall out of quorum, work queues get purged, etc. That's the reality of systems with a lot of very low value data. Eventually consistent, but also perpetually inconsistent.
That would easily explain comments coming back that were hours old or even days old, but it's extremely unlikely to explain comments coming back that were months or years old, as others in this thread have found. No database shard would ever have been left that far out of date due to high load. The only Hanlon's razor I can imagine here is somebody wrote a query to try to undelete something small (intending a single…
People are going back to revisit things they think they deleted a long time ago to find it not deleted.
It's possible that those items were deleted, and then suddenly undeleted over the past few days as Reddit plies its nefarious plans. Far more likely, they were never deleted in the first place, or had the same temporal issue and reappeared a short while after deletion, but long long ago. The person thought it was deleted, but it wasn't for the same reason people are finding deletes not to stick now in some cases.
What is interesting is that reddit claimed they couldn't show mods deleted comments for "lawyercat" reasons[1]. Mods used to be able to check deleted comments for harassment via Pushshift. Has the legal calculus changed so much in the past month that reviving comments to the general public is now okay? [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/134tjpe/reddit_dat...
I don't see how GDPR can't force them to remove all comments? Additionally, there is no reason Europeans can't own multiple accounts and that accounts can't change hands. So a single European should be able to delete thousands of accounts?
Reddit will anonymize -- well, "anonymize" -- the data by disassociating posts and comments from the username. This is potentially gdpr compliant (anonymity is a valid way to do things!). There's separately a balancing act: eg a post is valuable to everyone who commented in the thread.
So it's not clear that this is wrong, and forcing them to go further will be a slow process involving complaining to a country-specific DPA; getting that DPA to take on what will be a very low-priority case; letting the DPA process play out; and seeing if Reddit will appeal.
If you live in Europe, please file a complaint with your local data protection authorities.
Which they will promptly ignore or stonewall with endless back & forth until you give up.
If you live in Europe, please file a complaint with your local data protection authorities.
Would it be possible tho? I always wondered wether GPDR applies to data posted publicly?
I wipe my comments about every 6 months. Not just delete, I overwrite them and then purge them with one of those browser scripts. Looking back, it appears my history has been completely restored going back 5 years. Beyond 5 years, they are still deleted.
Completely restored to the overwritten value you set before deleting, or completely restored to the actual original content as people have speculated could happen?