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Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by davidy123 »

ho_schi wrote: post #414
davidy123 wrote: post #399

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The dock is a main feature of this device. You can even buy additional docks to place around the house for charging/speakers. If you don't need the dock, I guess it's not for you (though maybe they will release a dockless version later… and reduce the price). And unless you are really into the Google ecosystem (which can be compelling, but also annoying when they abandon products or gut them) it's not well priced in…

I’m afraid you’re right. I don’t need a dock. And I don’t want locked into an eco-system. The removal of Miracast was already a nightmare. The Chromecast image quality is worse, latency is worse and you need to the online. Thanks to Google „eco-system“. Actually the „tablet” itself looks like a good device. At least more money left for ThinkPads and Linux ^^

Yeah, I've stuck with Google for a somewhat more open version of the best of tech without trying to do everything myself, but I also run Linux everywhere, my own mail server, node-red, etc and would love to one day either free myself from the Google, or see them fully accept and work with the open world.

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by culopatin »

stefan_ wrote: post #22
Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #11

Well, better late than never. Many, many years ago when Android 2 was all the rage, Motorola has shipped Xoom tablet with Android 3. That Android version turned out to be a dead end, and the whole line of tablets went nowhere. Next Google's attempt at tablets was Nexus 7 device, which was actually great, esp 2013 version that still lays around somewhere in my office and sees occasional use. But then, Google kind of f…

Uhm wasn't the Nexus 7 the tablet that literally bricked itself within a year by the storage degrading to floppy speed?

Not a year, I definitely got way more use than that. But yes.

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by iakov »

theshrike79 wrote: post #301
tomjen3 wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stop downvoting OP because you don't remember PCs before 2000/XP. Those either didn't have different users or, in the case of windows 95 and 98, they were essentially pointless. For the record: I don't remember my family having different accounts on our home computer as a kid.

Windows didn't properly support multi-users before Windows 10 anyway. Properly as in "even my mom can use it". You could do it in earlier versions, but the UX wasn't exactly smooth if you had multiple users you needed to switch between.

Um, what? User switching in Windows 10 works exactly like it worked in 7, where it worked exactly like it worked in XP. Start -> Log Out -> Select another user and log in. Am I misremembering?

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by wccrawford »

RandomThrow321 wrote: post #57
crazygringo wrote: post #2

> The included charging dock is also a speaker. I've gotta say, charging docks are a killer feature for me and I don't understand why Apple doesn't do the same. There used to be the Logitech Base [1] that I still use with the previous-gen (9th) iPad, but the smart connector in the newest iPad (10th gen) is no longer compatible with it, as the angle of the edge changed. It's been years since I plugged in my phone or A…

I'm not going to get a Pixel Tablet, but I really do like the idea of a charging dock speaker.

Couldn't you just get a Nest Mini and 3d Print a cover for it with a charging connector built-in?

I know the existing tablets on the market don't lend themselves to being docked, but my point is what if you want a speaker and a tablet and a dock, and the speaker should work when the tablet isn't docked, it's actually just 2 devices jammed together.

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by culopatin »

ho_schi wrote: post #396

Can somebody explain me why Europeans should pay 679 Euro which are around 740 Dollar? I assume something around 540 Dollar in the US with sales tax? And why we should also pay for the needless dock? Last time I bought a ThinkPad the offered good docking-stations but this was optional. Things which are not need for normal use should sold separately. Waste of resources. Note: Rate Euro to US is 1,09.

Probably because labor laws, taxes, and fuel being 2x more expensive in Europe than in the US make logistics more expensive? Operation cost vary by region.

Also 740 is with tax, which for example in France is 20%, so the comparison price would be 592. So about $100 difference.

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by m45t3r »

scarface74 wrote: post #409
idoubtit wrote: post #406

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> that aforementioned Pixel situation where it stopped being supported _the next year_. That Pixel (from 2016) did not stop being supported the next year (2017). Android 8 was first released in 2017 and was followed by Android 9 one year later. So it was most recent Android up to 2018. Then it was still supported, since the latest patch for Android 8 was in 2021 and the latest compatible Google Play services release…

So in affect it isn’t being supported? Apple supports phones with OS upgrades much longer and then still releases patches for older versions of iOS.

I would argue it still is, because I am sure most Android apps still supports Android 9. Google is also much more serious about backward compatibility than Apple, and go a long way to make sure that Android APIs has backwards compatibility between multiple versions of it, see https://developer.android.com/topic/libraries/support-librar... and https://developer.android.com/jetpack/androidx.

So as long your device is still receiving security updates, it means you can pretty confidently run the majority of Android apps, even if you're in an older device. This is specially true since essential apps like browsers use their own engine and can receive security updates. This is very different from iOS that once it stops receiving updates, you're pretty much screwed up.

Not saying that one approach is better than the other, but both have trade-offs.

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by locallost »

I am not really am Apple person, but I always wondered why the iPad is almost always better priced or in the same range as Android tablets when they are clearly better. At the same time I have an Android phone and don't know why a comparable iPhone is 2x the price. Not saying this is a bad tablet, and I like my Pixel phone, but if they will fight the iPad they need to be competitive on pricing and this isn't, especially not in Europe.

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by 76SlashDolphin »

byhemechi wrote: post #392
indigomm wrote: post #8

US Price: $499 UK Price: £599 I get that technology companies don't just directly convert USD at the appropriate exchange rate, but this is ridiculous. Especially as the conversion rate they used on the Pixel Fold is 1 USD = 1 GBP.

it's actually insane, obviously this isn't google but it is actually cheaper for me to fly from prague to the US, buy a new macbook and fly back than it is for me to buy one locally. It makes absolutely no sense

Is it though? When I went to the US recently, an M1 MacBook Air from the physical Apple Store + taxes was about the same as I paid for it in the UK. I was considering getting an iPhone while I was there but the shorter warranty and same price out me off.

Re: Pixel Tablet

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Post by 76SlashDolphin »

gamblor956 wrote: post #251
wongarsu wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

UK value-added tax is 20%. $499 * 1,20 = $598.8, which is about £478. Selling it for £499 would have more than covered the tax difference at current exchange rate, so where do the other £100 come from?

As was pointed out earlier in other comments, Google generally uses a 1:1 convention for USD->GBP for pricing. (This 1:1 generally accounts for minor f/x fluctuations and for customs duties for importing goods into the U.K.) GBP 500 x 120% = GBP 600 (rounded)

Then how is the Pixel 7a only £450 when it's $500 in the US?
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