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Jack Dorsey ought to raise a round (not that he needs it) and hire the remaining engineers for BlueSky.

The (very) few I know personally aren't particularly interested in working for him again, and feel like he sold them out.

I'm struggling to see their POV on that. The deal got them $54 for their options, which is a much better deal (probably by more than 2x) than they would have got anywhere else.

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You keep repeating that in multiple threads. I've been on Mastodon for 5 years now and i've yet to see any. I'm not saying there isn't anything, but "flooded" it isn't.

They're repeating it because it is the truth you don't want to hear or fix and that's the problem.

It has been 7 years since Mastodon has been around and it is no better than where it was before since little to no-one has bothered to stick around or even know where to sign up. Twitter had beyond 10 million+ daily active users in 7 years, yet with Mastodon it only has spikes of users that don't stick around for years.

Like Facebook, it looks like the Twitter network effect has never been more strong; even when it goes down.

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Let’s not pretend like Twitter has never had downtime, they literally popularized the “Fail Whale” meme way before Elon was around: - https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/01/the-s...

Yes, but my recollection is that the whale fail was usually due to huge growth or unprecedented traffic peaks. I don't think Twitter is growing at a fast rate any longer.

Maybe now there are issues because of decreasing traffic?

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> Sending best of luck to the engineers. ... mostly around the hope they can jump ship before the Titanic pulls them under.

Why would you stay at Twitter? Even if you believe in the platform and the mission, this has to be one of the most stressful work environments in tech right now. The only cases I can think of for staying: - Unfortunate H-1Bs tied to the job. (We really need to make it easier for these folks to switch jobs and keep their visa!) - A feeling one needs the job and can't easily get work elsewhere. Perhaps living paycheck…

> Why would you stay at Twitter? Even if you believe in the platform and the mission, this has to be one of the most stressful work environments in tech right now.

I worked for a different eccentric billionaire early in my career. It was stressful, demanding, and unpredictable as he tried to micromanage everything by himself in short bursts of 5 minutes before moving on to the next thing.

The hook was an idea that it was a famous company and he was a [not quite] famous billionaire and that we were sitting on a once in a lifetime opportunity to build our resumes. He was going to reward us greatly at some future date when everything was working well again, and we’d be able to work anywhere else we wanted after this.

Didn’t really pan out for us as everyone got burned out, the billionaire’s micromanagement and constant product churn diminished the company’s reputation, and he eventually laid most people off in favor of even cheaper foreign labor.

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That second one, poking fun at the BBC for saying that Twitter "can't protect users from trolling," was really the BBC shooting itself in the foot with a laughable headline burying the lede of the article: > Twitter insiders: We can't protect users from trolling under Musk > Twitter insiders have told the BBC that the company is no longer able to protect users from trolling, state-co-ordinated disinformation and chil…

Honestly the "insider" even talking about "protecting" people from trolling and state co-ordinated misinformation(?) in the same sentence as protecting them from csam makes it very hard to believe it's something genuine. Sounds like the people who say all the petty things they dislike about someone on the internet and then finishes with "he's a pedo" to add gravitas.(yes elon does fall into this category)

'Trolling' has basically come to mean 'misinformation' among the general public, in the same way that 'hacking' has come to mean 'cybercrime'.

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> Sending best of luck to the engineers. ... mostly around the hope they can jump ship before the Titanic pulls them under.

Why would you stay at Twitter? Even if you believe in the platform and the mission, this has to be one of the most stressful work environments in tech right now. The only cases I can think of for staying: - Unfortunate H-1Bs tied to the job. (We really need to make it easier for these folks to switch jobs and keep their visa!) - A feeling one needs the job and can't easily get work elsewhere. Perhaps living paycheck…

Perhaps some people have different preferences than you.

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For someone who has tried to avoid hearing as much as possible about this drama (and didn't notice this was about Twitter until looking at the comments), what are the condensed "lesson learned" takeaways if you don't mind elaborating?

The lesson is if Elon runs Twitter, an hour long downtime takes up everyone's day so we can all speculate. Before, it was "healthy for everyone" when Twitter went down (search hn.algolia.com for pre-Elon Twitter downtime threads) Now it's an episode of Real Housewives just like any other Elon thread on HN.

He created that drama when he tried to gaslight the entire tech industry into thinking 90% of engineering jobs were redundant, you can’t expect anything else than for him to get dunked on when the completely predictable consequences of that play out, namely that the service will get more and more unreliable over time.

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> It would feel amazing after this much abuse. This much abuse. What abuse? Can you tell us more in detail?

They make for a shitty work environment for everyone - anyone who wants to set up healthy boundaries between work and life would be let go, thus eventually reducing worker rights.

No one is in shackles. They make like $300k in compensation. It's a free country, workers can go wherever they want. Free labor market.

What if, just what if, the workers actually like working hard and making their lives better? That seems to never enter the conversation here.

Honestly, the culture on HN makes workers like me more resentful. It's 100% negative, there is absolutely 0% optimism in these threads. Not even one comment here (or elsewhere on HN).

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> Unfortunate H-1Bs tied to the job. Or we could reduce the hoops & cycle time for legal immigration. The US has an opportunity right now to cement itself as the leader in technology for the next 2-3 decades and stave off the impending population growth crisis if we could find a way to enable people who want to live here to live here.

I'm not interested in government policy that allows companies to bring in cheap foreign labor to undercut my compensation. There are 330 million people in the us, so if companies need more engineers, they can pay more and train more. Also, there is no population growth crisis. A decreasing population means less stress on the environment and lower housing costs. Yes, there will be economic effects, but it's hardly cat…

> government policy that allows companies to bring in cheap foreign labor to undercut my compensation

They become Americans and rise to your level of comfort and compensation. By working here in the US, they increase the wealth, tax base, and culture of our country. Immigration is a good thing. Skilled immigration even more so.

The alternative is that they stay in their home country, and that country grows a tech industry that rivals the US. Those workers will work for even cheaper than in the US, putting an even wider delta on price and creating an incredible arbitrage opportunity for talent.

Much like the automotive industry, foreign competition will drive margin out of our comfortable tech industry that has enjoyed being peerless for decades.

We're only going to see more `TikTok`s and `Spotify`s arise.

At some point, talent won't want to come to the US anymore. That should scare you.

I say all of this as someone who wants everyone to enjoy wealth and prosperity regardless of where they live. I still want opportunity and the ability to capitalize on it to be accessible to any American that would take it. And for that to continue, we should keep growing our talent pool and increasing the scope of what we can achieve together.

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I'm not interested in government policy that allows companies to bring in cheap foreign labor to undercut my compensation. There are 330 million people in the us, so if companies need more engineers, they can pay more and train more. Also, there is no population growth crisis. A decreasing population means less stress on the environment and lower housing costs. Yes, there will be economic effects, but it's hardly cat…

> government policy that allows companies to bring in cheap foreign labor to undercut my compensation They become Americans and rise to your level of comfort and compensation. By working here in the US, they increase the wealth, tax base, and culture of our country. Immigration is a good thing. Skilled immigration even more so. The alternative is that they stay in their home country, and that country grows a tech ind…

^ This is roughly the point I was trying to make.
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