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Post by hoseja »

kenneth wrote: post #397
askvictor wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Americans don't really do electric kettles, largely on account of using 110V mains, which limits power to around 1100W, making it a lot slower than ~2000W electric kettles in the 200+V world.

I'm a European who finds kettles stupid. I own one because someone didn't appreciate my house's lack of kettle and got one despite my protestations. I own (1) a induction stovetop, (2) a microwave… both will perfectly boil water just as fast. Why do I want to waste counter space on a kettle. My kitchen is tiny. I have the same complaint about a ricecooker. It's perfectly easy to cook rice in a pot. Sure it's convenie…

I've never owned a rice cooker but I'm led to believe the rice they make is superior to anything you can reasonably achieve in a simple pot.

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Post by manojlds »

jiggawatts wrote: post #63
unpythonic wrote: post #37

The claim: reduces CO₂e emissions by up to 80%* The asterisk: water boiling phase excluded When I boil pasta, I use full heat to get the water boiling, drop in the pasta, then let it come back up to a boil, then drop the temperature as low as possible to keep a slow boil going--about medium-low. Guesstimating that the boil takes about as long as the time to cook the pasta, I'd say that the pasta cooking portion only…

A better way to save energy is to use an electric kettle to get the water up to boiling. This is about three times as energy-efficient as a gas hob. Combined with passive cooking it could save real money… Technology Connections on YouTube has a good video about how electric kettles are the superior way to boil water: https://youtu.be/_yMMTVVJI4c

Isn't this a thing? This is how I have been cooking for a long time - bring water to boil in kettle and use it to cook.

Re: Barilla passive cooker

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Post by Arn_Thor »

vasco wrote: post #382
Arn_Thor wrote: post #341

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A thousand small changes add up, however. Also, don't forget how those companies responsible for all those emissions make stuff that we eagerly buy up. The emissions are "their", but really on our behalf. And I'm well aware of the hypocrisy in me typing this on a plastic keyboard in a plastic office chair wearing synthetic clothing. I could have carved keycaps out of wood and made a typing device with an Arduino, sou…

> A thousand small changes add up, however You also start optimising your computer programs not by targeting the function that takes 90% of the time, but the utility method that takes 0.0001%, I see. "Every little bit counts" thinking is one of the most destructive in society.

Nice straw man. Well done.

I'll gladly take an extra few minutes to make my pasta if it saves a lot of energy and emissions. But you do you, bud

Re: Barilla passive cooker

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Post by teekert »

Also works for eggs: But yeah, many wrong assumptions. Who blasts the water while it's cooking? Nobody, you boil it, add pasta, bring it back to boil, turn down the heat significantly. That's very far from 80% reduction, you only reach that without turning down the heat, in which case water splashes out of your pan constantly. Very misleading article.

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Post by koliber »

nephanth wrote: post #356
namuol wrote: post #318

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I have a gas stove in my studio apartment. I still use an electric kettle to get water boiling before dumping it into a preheated pan to cook noodles/whatever. Highly recommend this approach if you are stuck with gas.

I generally heat half the water in the pot, and half in the electric kettle (adjust proportions depending on the relative power of your appliances) Quickest way to heat up the required amount of water

Assuming you have a four-burner stove, you could split your water five-way, and use four pots and your electric tea kettle.

If you want to push, you could improve the efficiency even more. That would require a capital investment into additional stoves and/or electric kettles. You'd probably need something like kubernetes for orchestration as well.

Re: Barilla passive cooker

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Post by PestoDiRucola »

housingisaright wrote: post #241

How you like to cook pasta aside. This is so dumb. No one is going to solve the climate crisis with not boiling the pasta while certain companies is reaponaible for basically all emissions. What is the word for this? When you try socialise problems like this to try shift blame? I’m still surprised how many people don’t know thar “climate footprint “ is invented by one of the bigger oil companies in a similar campaign…

I'd like to add some context here: the whole cooking pasta with the stove off became a major talking point in Italian social media some months ago (I'm serious). It all started with a popular science educator posting a video on Youtube explaining the science behind it. Then some influencers decided to promote the idea because of reasons such as climate change and the energy crisis, which in turn started being ridiculed for the same reasons you are mentioning. Barilla just jumped on the occasion for some easy marketing both at home and on the international market.

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Post by kergonath »

kalleboo wrote: post #417
kergonath wrote: post #404

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> Compare to a stovetop where there's a big heavy pot between the element and the water, and it's not in complete contact with it. You’re describing resistive stovetops, not induction ones where the heating element is the bottom of the pot itself. > Also often the heating element is underneath a piece of glass. These things under the glass do not heat anything. They are there to induce some electric current in the bo…

> These things under the glass do not heat anything Glass infrared cookers also exist, my parents had one back in the 90's before induction was much of a thing. It was touted as easy to clean (and looks cool)

Yes, you’re right, I forgot about those!

They are mostly historical curiosities now, right? Not as cheap as simple resistive cookers, and worse in about all respects than induction ones.

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Post by froh »

xcambar wrote: post #375
froh wrote: post #368

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just start the timer at 80°C and get the pasta below 80°C once Al dented, either by adding ingredients or by briefly rinsing with fresh water, e.g. to on fry the pasta afterwards.

I was first hurt that you conjugated "al dente", but in fact it's just how languages incorporate new elements and evolve, so that's fine, I guess. > - how are you cooking your pasta? > - I'm aldenting them, of course :) I still personally don't like it but since my opinion is not requested, I might as well get used to it in case it sticks.

uh oh what has happened here?

first I take full responsibility for "intelligent" auto correct on the phone in a rush in the morning, though. It's like "full self driving": at this time and age I, the driver, have full responsibility, not my "intelligent" "keyboard".

it also capitalized Al, Al dente as in Al Capone.

Now, with this creature out in the wild, I feel like Frank N Stein. Forgive me! ;-)

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Post by jve »

jiggawatts wrote: post #63
unpythonic wrote: post #37

The claim: reduces CO₂e emissions by up to 80%* The asterisk: water boiling phase excluded When I boil pasta, I use full heat to get the water boiling, drop in the pasta, then let it come back up to a boil, then drop the temperature as low as possible to keep a slow boil going--about medium-low. Guesstimating that the boil takes about as long as the time to cook the pasta, I'd say that the pasta cooking portion only…

A better way to save energy is to use an electric kettle to get the water up to boiling. This is about three times as energy-efficient as a gas hob. Combined with passive cooking it could save real money… Technology Connections on YouTube has a good video about how electric kettles are the superior way to boil water: https://youtu.be/_yMMTVVJI4c

Speaking about electrical kettle: why aren't there insulated kettles that would help me save energy when I re-boil water after 20 minutes?

EDIT: Ah, there are some: https://www.amazon.com/DASH-Insulated-Electric-Kettle-Cordle...

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