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Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by lynndotpy »

musictubes wrote: post #323
galoisscobi wrote: post #27

I wonder why developer tools are not a priority for Apple for “pro” iPads. At this point, it uses the M2 chip so the limitations on running IDEs, compilers and other tools just seem arbitrarily imposed.

I keep hearing about the desire for developer tools on an ipad and I just don’t get it. The entirety of iPadOS would need to be overhauled in order for it to be conducive for developer work. What is the appeal of doing dev work on a touch based UI with limited access to the file system on a cramped screen? The Mac is perfectly set up for that work.

I’ve done a significant amount of coding on a terminal on an Android phone.

> The entirety of iPadOS would need to be overhauled in order for it to be conducive for developer work

I disagree. I used an iPad for sysadmin, datascience, some math, and some web dev. Most of the pain comes from arbitrary restrictions Apple places on iPads. (I’d imagine it’ll get more painful as my eyes worsen.)

The appeal is simple: Being able to develop with whatever device you have on you. A laptop beats a tablet, a tablet beats a phone, and a phone beats pencil and paper.

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Post by kaba0 »

drcongo wrote: post #215
hayst4ck wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was pretty skeptical of AirPods. Now I could never go back.

I use my iPad for making music, the latency on AirPods or any other BT headphones makes them a non-starter. It makes me actually angry that they removed the jack from the iPad "pro", killing one of the very few actual pro uses for an iPad.

I’m not knowledgeable on hardware/music, would an usb-c to jack converter decrease quality/increase latency? I know that it is still a bad option as you may want to charge it at the same time.. Maybe those usb-c dongles used primarily in macs? They often have jack as well, would that not be a good replacement?

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Post by bullen »

asadlionpk wrote: post #292
rowanG077 wrote: post #259

Is it possible to run virtualized linux on these and have all hardware stuff working?

Not yet. best so far is UTM.

But does UTM support OpenGL powered by the M2 GPU?!

And off topic but what about connecting a mouse to this thing?

And what about compiling apps on it!?

What about running OpenGL on non emulated linux on this?

I know the GPU is being worked on but do the old OpenGL parts work allready or is that part of the reverse engineering?

I wish you could change batteries yourself... hopefully they have moved towards that: 3/10 on the old one: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPad+Pro+11-Inch+Teardown/11...

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Post by thepasswordis »

solaceb wrote: post #374
martin_drapeau wrote: post #353

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My daughter is 16 and has used an iPad for school for many years. Latptops are foreign to her. Same for her cohort. They are the next generation of adults and have replaced desktops and laptops with iPads and iPhones.

That is scary to me, an entire generation growing up within the walled garden and perceiving only Apple's products as what is possible for computers to accomplish. These computers are confining, as much as their constriction liberates the user in its simplicity, it is a real constriction. To me, that's exactly what the FLOSS movement hoped to avoid, and failed to do so by advocating for a purist f/open stance rather…

Not just the walled garden. iPads are simply less capable as productivity devices than a laptop is.

Right now, for instance, I have this page open in a web browser, which has youtube playing in one tab, twitter in another, and this in yet another. I also have an iPhone simulator running behind this browser, a terminal window tail -f ing a logfile, and vscode in another window.

All of this stuff is open at the same time. I can hear audio from all of it, access all of it, see all of it, all at the same time. This is not possible on an iPad.

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by balderdash »

If you only use communication tools, web based apps, Word, and only need to be able to open/tweak an excel or PowerPoint doc, then yeah they’re awesome, anything more and you need a laptop.

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Post by thepasswordis »

It is hilarious to me that apple keeps adding accessories to the iPad to make it look more and more like a laptop.

The iPad is a very bad laptop, but is a great tablet.

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Post by cush »

roody15 wrote: post #210

I Work IT in a institution with 290 employees and have had 5 switch to iPad Pro's to "replace" their laptop. I am now 5 for 5 with all asking for their laptop back. iPadOS is nothing more than iPhoneOS renamed and the device is still too heavily crippled for desktop/laptop replacement. In my mini test case scenario I never said a word..simply the employee asked for iPad Pro.. I just handed it to them... waited... the…

I don't think Apple is marketing it as heavily as you think at replacing Workplace laptops, but moreso consumer laptops. iPad is a delightfully simple device for consuming any kind of media, editing photos and videos, light to medium gaming, and doing little creative things.

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Post by jasonlotito »

Terretta wrote: post #223
roody15 wrote: post #210

I Work IT in a institution with 290 employees and have had 5 switch to iPad Pro's to "replace" their laptop. I am now 5 for 5 with all asking for their laptop back. iPadOS is nothing more than iPhoneOS renamed and the device is still too heavily crippled for desktop/laptop replacement. In my mini test case scenario I never said a word..simply the employee asked for iPad Pro.. I just handed it to them... waited... the…

On the contrary, I have owned MacBook Pros from the first to the last 17", then again every model since the 16". I also have iPad Pro with magic keyboard and touch pad. I don't travel with the MacBook any more, as I can do anything from the iPad. But it's not just me. I've also been CTO at mega bank and hedge funds where we've rolled these out along side laptops. I've found that after initial objections, folks tend t…

This isn't contrary. Quite the opposite. None of the cases you present are iPad only. They are iPad alongside laptops. They might find cases where the iPad is fine, but none are iPad only.

And your "bonus" is basically an iPad Pro as a $1000+ chat device.

Now, if you mean that they added an iPad Pro, and eventually stopped ever using their laptop, that's a different story, but that's not what you said in your comment.

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Post by freeplay »

thefz wrote: post #408
cube2222 wrote: post #399

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean with "filesystem" specifically, that isn't available on iPads? There's the Files app.

Does it allow you to have access to the whole fileystem, unrestricted access?

It allows access to a filesystem, just not the root filesystem.

You can do all the basic copy/cut/paste ops and create whatever folder structure you want. Don't expect to edit system files though. People spend lots of time looking for vulnerabilities to achieve that.

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Post by nomel »

at_a_remove wrote: post #59

I was told to expect wireless charging for these. I was excited about this, because my mother has an irrational "thing" about wires, and an uncharged iPad is a useless iPad.

There are many lightning charge docks [1]. Maybe something like that could work, if securely mounted to the back of a table, to hide the hanging wire.

Wireless charging pads also have cables. Do you hide them in table surfaces?

1. Random example: https://www.belkin.com/th/chargers/wireless/charging-stands-...

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