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Post by makeitdouble »

quitit wrote: post #412
makeitdouble wrote: post #406

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The pro line is well into the desktop class territory on any hardware requirement, be it CPU, memory, storage etc. At this point, any feature that exists on their laptops is lacking on the iPad only by choice.

I'm pretty sure the discussion is about multi-user support on the current Pro line-up? So let me ask you directly: How would you propose to get around the limitations of the secure enclave for Face-ID on existing iPads?

Allow as many Face-ID registration as there is users ?

TBH I’m not sure what you see as an issue, and why it couldn’t be the same secure enclave management as on the MBP with touch-ID.

Re: iOS 16 Available September 12th

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Post by kemayo »

ThePowerOfFuet wrote: post #418
kemayo wrote: post #184

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There's a useful iOS app called Number Shield that lets you block all calls coming from numbers that match the first six digits of your phone number. That's the most common spoofing technique, so it really does help. E.g. if your number is (555)555-1234 it'll block anything from (555)555-0000 to (555)555-9999. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/number-shield/id1319082167

Does that app transmit data anywhere?

Not that I know of? The privacy statement on that App Store page says it collects usage data and diagnostics, and that neither are linked to you personally.

Re: iOS 16 Available September 12th

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Post by kemayo »

sumnole wrote: post #302
kemayo wrote: post #184

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There's a useful iOS app called Number Shield that lets you block all calls coming from numbers that match the first six digits of your phone number. That's the most common spoofing technique, so it really does help. E.g. if your number is (555)555-1234 it'll block anything from (555)555-0000 to (555)555-9999. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/number-shield/id1319082167

Just be warned this will also block legitimate numbers.

You can give it access to your contacts so it'll exclude them, or whitelist specific patterns if you want.

Re: iOS 16 Available September 12th

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Post by PassageNick »

hahnchen wrote: post #352
toomuchtodo wrote: post #32

Passkeys gonna be fire. Goodbye password managers, credential stuffing, and phishing attacks! (photo deduplication is nice too btw, been a long time coming)

Someone correct me if I'm wrong. But, does WebAuthn really improve authentication? With WebAuthn, instead of a secret password, you store a secret key. Why not just use really long passwords behind password managers? You're using some software to save a secret in either case.

WebAuthn drastically improves authentication.

For starters, it doesn't release any secret information into the wild. Instead, it uses a public/private key pair to challenge the user to decrypt something that only she or he can decrypt. The website (as an example) no longer stores anything but your public key, which doesn't reveal anything.

Secondly, you can't give away your passkey information so it is for all practical purposes unphishable. (I can't conceive of a way that it might be phished, but that doesn't mean there isn't one.)

In addition, it is super-duper easy on users. They don't have to remember anything, and can login with the touch of a finger or a glance at the camera.

This is a huge step forward in authentication.

Re: iOS 16 Available September 12th

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Post by derefr »

josephg wrote: post #398
derefr wrote: post #241

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"User accounts" in the security sense, maybe isn't the right abstraction. Have you tried logging in with multiple accounts on a Nintendo Switch? You're sort of just logged into all of them at once; and when you launch a given app/game, it asks you which profile you want to launch it under. To me, that'd be the perfect multi-user experience for iPad. Any user can unlock it with their own biometrics/credentials; once u…

When would you select user? The ipad is designed to swap between apps way more frequently than you swap games on the switch. If you have to select user every time you swap apps on the ipad, it would be horribly annoying.

Probably only as a double-check if the iPad detects that it's been handed to a different person without being locked. In most cases you'd want to continue under the assumption that the user who unlocked the device wants to open things as themselves.

Mind you, the Switch has to do user-switching only at app startup time, because it's an effectively single-tasking OS. Given that you can be running tons of apps (and instances of apps) at the same time on an iPad, there are many other UI possibilities that synergize with an explicit user-chooser. Examples:

- You know the app groups in the new macOS/iPadOS? Imagine a user profile as an app-group-group (in iOS) or a group of spaces (in macOS.) Do the slow-swipe-up-from-the-bottom thing again when you're already in the app chooser, and you get the profile chooser.

- Some gesture you can do while in an app, that means "give me this same app, but viewed as a different user" — which is like a retroactive version of the Switch user-chooser thing. If other users already had the same app open, it'd work like Expose/Mission Control for seeing what their instance of the app looks like. And, as an optimization, apps that detect that you've user-switched away from them soon after launch, when they're still in their toplevel view, could take that as a signal to quit (as they'd assume that you just meant to open the app as a different user.)

Re: iOS 16 Available September 12th

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Post by pwpw »

ayewo wrote: post #380
fomine3 wrote: post #318

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Don't leaving town make returning difficult?

I believe what the gp is really saying is that by the time they get to pick up the iPhone 14 Pro (whether in store or when their pre-order gets delivered), they'll be too close to the date of their departure. In other words, they would not have had any meaningful time getting accustomed to iOS from Android, which is why they used the strategy of getting an iPhone 13 spend 2 weeks or more with it, in the hopes that if…

Correct!

Re: iOS 16 Available September 12th

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Post by sebazzz »

patrickserrano wrote: post #117
l72 wrote: post #98

Still no ability to have separate accounts on an ipad... I sort of understand that a phone is a single user OS, but the ipad most certainly should be a multi user OS.

If you don't mind using MDM you can get something akin to roaming profiles on iPads. It's an enterprise feature, but it was introduced sometime during iOS 13. I agree though, native multi-user support would be great. Though, I'd hope it's better than what we got on tvOS.

Don’t act like it is either easy or free. You need a verifyable company, and the iCloud accounts need to be managed as well. They can’t be personal or manually created.

It is not a viable solution for either the average user or the advanced user.

Re: iOS 16 Available September 12th

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Post by BoorishBears »

jbverschoor wrote: post #384
BoorishBears wrote: post #340

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Old school manufacturer mentality, although it's not completely baseless... - Don't give up control of a safety critical interface - Don't give up data (which they think they can monetize) by not controlling the full stack - Don't give up a branded differentiator like "iDrive" for what everyone else is offering - Don't pay a tax on our cars to big tech if we can avoid it (see how they dragged their feet on Carplay to…

Sure, but it's simply what people want. I will refuse to buy a car without carplay. I also want to have a seamless experience from my contacts / music / maps etc. I don't want old crappy outdated and super expansive software in my car, and I'm certain every day more people think the same.

That's fine but they're convinced software is the boring cheap part and people want the car for physical side of things, and nothing will change their mind short of really dire circumstances (and business has never been better for them)

Rolls Royce was still selling $200,000 with iDrive versions almost 2 years behind the version in a base model 2-series until last year, so I also wouldn't underestimate how much money they've made while keeping that mentality

Re: iOS 16 Available September 12th

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Post by SleepilyLimping »

criddell wrote: post #37
SleepilyLimping wrote: post #29

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It's frustrating, because this likely won't be usable on Desktop, Windows, or the majority of workspaces. I actually don't mind the Reminders app, but like iMessage, I can't use it on my main Windows desktop, so I don't. I can count on one hand the amount of times I've FaceTimed someone because of fragmentation in my network with Android.

You can use Reminders in the browser.

Yes, but not all the features of it; if you're using the most recent "upgraded" Reminders, all you can do on web is create new tasks and add notes. You can't:

  - Add or edit lists
  - Add reminders or due dates
  - Add tagging or priority
  - Add things like location-based reminders
Just crappy all around.

Re: iOS 16 Available September 12th

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Post by frizkie »

wilg wrote: post #140
frizkie wrote: post #48

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This is a great feature but it's a huge double-edged sword. I need to remember to turn it off when I'm expecting a call from an unpredictable number, and then I need to remember to turn it back on again after I receive the call. It would be great if I could turn it off for some number of hours or days.

My strategy is to have my voicemail say that I don't get calls from unknown numbers and to text or call again if it is urgent.

I think this strategy would be a winner if I thought that most people would bother listening to my mailbox message.
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