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Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by countspongebob »

ghiculescu wrote: post #66
craigkerstiens wrote: post #17

This is a sad day. Pricing changes are always hard, and having been through some of the earlier pricing changes at Heroku you can't make everyone happy. But, so many developers deployed their first app on Heroku and was a staple for so many bootcamps. Without it I'm confident we'd have less developers in the world. It is still one of the gold standards for developer experience. Years after its heyday companies and to…

Why do you think nobody has been able to fully emulate this experience? It seems to me like there’d be a big market for an identical feature by feature Heroku “clone” with a more dedicated (from the outside looking in) team. No more features, no less, just exactly what Heroku did but without the intent to shut down. What’s preventing that from existing?

There is no intent to shut Heroku down. Quite the opposite.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by riekus »

pyb wrote: post #138

Not sure how Heroku is hoping to attract new customers without a free tier ? Do they think their reputation will suffice?

Salesforce reputation? Have you worked with their ecosystem? Their pardot marketing platform van only use date fields in YYYYMMDD, no way to convert this to a European format. And i can drum up like a 100 of these insane things we have to work with on a daily basis. I work in the Salesforce ecosystem, and love my job but funny enough I fucking hate Salesforce in so many ways.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by jamesy0ung »

buf wrote: post #384
kelnos wrote: post #362

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah yes, because a company that decides to stop giving away its time and resources for free is now a "villain". Right.

Mate, this was a joke. I hope that came across. I've been a paying member of heroku for nearly a decade, and pay them $1000s of my personal income monthly. I think their product has been brilliant. I just defended them yesterday in a HN comment. I do, however, use their free tier to test things daily. This news puts me in a bind. It's work that I hadn't planned, and I only have 3 months to find a solution for it when…

Sarcasm and jokes in text don't usually come across to most people due to the lack of context. No criticism intended.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by gkoberger »

MuffinFlavored wrote: post #324
gkoberger wrote: post #316

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For just the hosting, maybe. But there's so much more Heroku does, from spinning up test environments for PRs to storing secret keys (across different repos) to being a CI to monitoring to... so so much more.

> from spinning up test environments for PRs Hooking up some kind of CI/CD to GitHub through webhooks > storing secret keys Built into GitHub (or an instance of Hashicorp Vault which can be hosted for free) > to monitoring Can run your own Grafana/Promtheus Obviously there's a cost running all of this yourself as opposed to just paying them to do it. Just making sure I wasn't missing something obvious tradeoff wise b…

I think you just proved my point, no? I don't want to do any of this; I want to pay someone to do it.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by ndneighbor »

csjh wrote: post #333
kretaceous wrote: post #63

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I relate to this. > We appreciate Heroku’s legacy as a learning platform. Many students have their first experience with deploying an application into the wild on Heroku. I'm one of those students. It's good that they will open up something free for students but I suspect it'll never be the same as just signing up and git push heroku master.

Render has pretty good free tier benefits, but no git push render master

Disclaimer: I work at Railway.app as a Support Engineer

You might be interested in Railway's CLI deployments: `railway up` from your project root gets ya going.

https://docs.railway.app/deploy/railway-up

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by countspongebob »

shostack wrote: post #237
joshstrange wrote: post #205

IF we want to take them at face-value that this is because of fraud and abuse (a trust/respect they have not earned IMHO, or rather they lost many years ago) then this a case of throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Otherwise it's some stupid MBA finding a way to save some money which will ultimately only speed up Heroku's demise. Either way the writing is on the wall. The Heroku that delighted us all is long dea…

I don't understand this sentiment sometimes. There may be fraud and abuse. There may also be a material cost to a company whose detailed financial situation I'm assuming you are not purvey to. Someone doesn't need to be "a stupid MBA" to have made this decision (in fact my guess would be it involved many cross functional and leadership perspectives given its nature). Also, this is quite possibly something necessary f…

Thanks Shostack. As it happens, I don't have an MBA, but I have considered in the past as I think it is important for people who come up through the engineering ranks to GM jobs to be well rounded. Instead I've done a lot of learning on the job, which also works.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by golemiprague »

countspongebob wrote: post #82
joshstrange wrote: post #26

So their next chapter is obscurity followed by shutting down? It was clear even before their horribly bungled GitHub security incident that Heroku was on life support at best and it's been a long time since "Heroku" was the answer to "What PaaS should I use?". The beancounters took control a while back and are sucking all they can out of it before they discard it's empty shell. Having Heroku as your PaaS provider see…

We are not shutting it down. As I said in the blog, our priority is making sure that Heroku choice is a good business decision for critical apps of all sizes. This does have tradeoffs, but getting the rug pulled out is not one of them - the opposite.

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Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by Exuma »

gkoberger wrote: post #177

We pay Heroku many, many tens of thousands of dollars a year. And I still use free dynos, both personally and at work. For example, throwing up a quick app for testing (where I'm happy with dynos that sleep or are limited per-repo). By pushing us off the Heroku ecosystem for some stuff, we might as well just move everything. The only reason we even use Heroku now is because I used it for free over a decade ago. I get…

Can anyone compare Fly with Render?
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