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Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

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Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

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Post by smcl »

pessimizer wrote: post #405
JoachimS wrote: post #151

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Calling people idiots (as OP did) is unnecessary, but do we really need whataboutism? The point here is that insects are proposed as a new, high volume source of proteins, as a way to reduce meat consumption. Humans have fairly good understanding of parastites, bacteria etc related to meat. And have established routines for raising animals and preparing meat to minimize the problems. As far as I know, humans have not…

> Calling people idiots (as OP did) is unnecessary, but do we really need whataboutism? Let's say I propose cars as an alternative to motorcycles, and you respond by citing the enormous numbers of deaths from car accidents. Am I doing a whataboutism if I mention that motorcycles have accidents too? edit: "whataboutism" is an anticommunist propaganda term meant to defend segregation, but to the extent that it has a me…

Your edit contains a really nice concise definition of what is and what isn't whataboutism. Sadly I find that it's often deployed as a defense like "you can't accuse me of X, I accused you of X first!" and it's tiresome

Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

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Post by throwaway0x7E6 »

orthecreedence wrote: post #398
throwaway0x7E6 wrote: post #345

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middle-class american urban yuppies who've given up on McD a few months ago and now insist the rest of us should follow suit? not the enemy, just their useful idiots. global elites with their private jets, yachts, islands and castles preaching to us unwashed masses to tighten our belts and lower our expectations as they bring about the end to our peace and prosperity? yes, absolutely, they are my enemy - and yours, i…

> global elites with their private jets, yachts, islands and castles People were harping against meat long before the elites opened their mouths about it. For all you know, the elites' suggestion to eat insects is a ploy to get people like you to do the exact opposite. Maybe YOU'RE the useful idiot.

would be funny if that was the case, but I fear their intentions are as malicious as they appear.

Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

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Post by jessaustin »

mrguyorama wrote: post #314
xienze wrote: post #154

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> I don't think disgust is "innate". Sure it is. Did someone have to teach you not to eat shit? Or green meat that smells like death? Certain smells and physical appearances trigger reactions in our bodies that tell us "stay away." That there might be certain groups of people that act in contrary ways is an exception, and doesn't disprove anything.

You haven't been around many babies have you? You absolutely have to stop them from trying to eat shit

Babies in my family have gorged on giant cockroaches when not sufficiently supervised...

Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

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Post by TuringTest »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #352
TuringTest wrote: post #162

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There are two main reasons why religious books of law ban certain behaviors: - to encode social and higienic rules as understood at the time - to signal heressy, prohibiting a common practice carried out by heretics (double points if it is a practice central to those heretical beliefs). For religions originating in the desert where meat spoils quickly, it makes sense to ban those kinds of meat more prone to transmiti…

fwiw, turning on your spellchecker would enhance your comments greatly.

Thanks for the advice. I try to have it enabled in all edit tools and browsers, but some will not allow it in two languages at the same time, and setting it in mobile to a language other than the main OS language is not trivial. And I haven't found how to enable spell check on Firefox mobile.

Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

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Post by steve_adams_86 »

slothtrop wrote: post #302
steve_adams_86 wrote: post #269

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This simply isn’t true. From a health as well as safety standpoint, chicken correlates with worth health outcomes and definitely leads to more illnesses.

Relative to pork? Source.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/67/ss/ss6710a1.htm

Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

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Post by prometheus76 »

VBprogrammer wrote: post #363
prometheus76 wrote: post #324

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Dogs and horses are not ruminants, therefore they are more likely to carry parasites that are harmful to humans. Cows and sheep are both ruminants. So yes, there is a difference beyond cultural preferences. Or I should say, cultural preferences are not just arbitrary.

Pigs and chickens are also not ruminants and are eaten almost as widely as cows and sheep.

Not by me (I grew up on a farm), but you do you.

Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

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Post by fzfaa »

orthecreedence wrote: post #398
throwaway0x7E6 wrote: post #345

Earlier quoted context omitted.

middle-class american urban yuppies who've given up on McD a few months ago and now insist the rest of us should follow suit? not the enemy, just their useful idiots. global elites with their private jets, yachts, islands and castles preaching to us unwashed masses to tighten our belts and lower our expectations as they bring about the end to our peace and prosperity? yes, absolutely, they are my enemy - and yours, i…

> global elites with their private jets, yachts, islands and castles People were harping against meat long before the elites opened their mouths about it. For all you know, the elites' suggestion to eat insects is a ploy to get people like you to do the exact opposite. Maybe YOU'RE the useful idiot.

The difference being that those people couldn't do shit about it, while the elites can (and they are working hard on it!)

Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

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Post by yubiox »

Shindi wrote: post #329
eth0up wrote: post #261

The importance of this subject is underestimated and applies as well quite independently of whether humans eat the insects directly or not. Consider the cuban tree frog for example, which has long since initiated its campaign in Florida to host and spread throughout the food chain the rat lungworm nematode. Rat lungworm (angiostrongylus) holds its own in the burgeoning presence of hideous and hostile parasites. It is…

I'm sorry to be direct, I know your post has a ton of interesting knowledge, but it was impossible to read. Have you considered using newlines or breaks? You probably have amazing ideas and more people would read them if it was easier to read (my 2c)

it is not clear(I hit return here) how to put newlines(and here) on HN

Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

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Post by pvaldes »

eth0up wrote: post #261

The importance of this subject is underestimated and applies as well quite independently of whether humans eat the insects directly or not. Consider the cuban tree frog for example, which has long since initiated its campaign in Florida to host and spread throughout the food chain the rat lungworm nematode. Rat lungworm (angiostrongylus) holds its own in the burgeoning presence of hideous and hostile parasites. It is…

Just as note: Baylisascaris procyonis can stunt grow and brain development in children and is related in part with the "redneck stereotype".

Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

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Post by eth0up »

yubiox wrote: post #428
Shindi wrote: post #329

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry to be direct, I know your post has a ton of interesting knowledge, but it was impossible to read. Have you considered using newlines or breaks? You probably have amazing ideas and more people would read them if it was easier to read (my 2c)

it is not clear(I hit return here) how to put newlines(and here) on HN

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