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Zero sum doesn’t mean there is a loser to every transaction. It just means that the net total change is zero. You buy a friend a beer, and you get a beers worth of camaraderie.
What remains constant when I give my son a hug? Or I say, “thank you?” The zero-sum game is life stuff is nonsense.
FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores
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This comment doesn't seem to understand what the parent was saying or engage with their argument at all? 1. No it's not fine that American companies are threats to privacy and so on, and it should be dealt with. 2. However TikTok is a special case in that in addition to the above, it presents a national security risk (to the Americans), so it's reasonable to treat it differently and with more urgency.
In what way. Surely there is a shutdown button to press if TikTok go rouge.
Dissidents should rather use the social networks the gov. or establishment wants to ban than the one they control (e.g. FB).
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I think that's far to vague to be workable and sounds incredibly expensive (unless everyone uses those loopholes). Storing data on user's devices isn't great, it takes up storage space (adding cost) and relies on the user to manage the backups (which lots of folks don't do). Users also switch between devices, so you'd need some sort of cross-device syncing or something. e2ee implies that the data can only be decrypte…
For messaging, Matrix has solved almost all of the problems you're claiming are insurmountable. Key management can be assisted with m out of n type secret sharing, or we just treat people like responsible adults, and if they lose their keys, then tough, those messages are gone now. For loopholes, the solution is to just not believe the bullshit. Have a very high standard of evidence required and/or require fully info…
Matrix probably isn't a good example. That's an impressive project with great developers. Most companies don't have equivalent staff, nor the budget to hire.
> publicly sharing all code that touches it
That's a huge request.
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#425The US uses "security risk" as an excuse to force TikTok to store data and code on US servers, so they can collect this data and learn how TikTok works and has become so successful. Now that they have what they need, they use the same excuse for market protectionism, trying to remove TikTok so US alternatives can take its place. A tactic well-used by the US.
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#426Of course not. Every government is going to look out for themselves. Following your reasoning, look at China. They have their own playbook for operating within China, and it is quite restrictive. They make it harder for foreign entities to do business within China. From a geopolitical viewpoint this makes complete sense. You don't want your rival to have a backdoor into influencing/manipulating/discovering how people…
> You don't want your rival to have a backdoor into influencing/manipulating/discovering how people in your nation are behaving And yet, Russia heavily used Facebook to influence/manipulate American behaviour during the election.
If not, do you distinguish between companies that are homed in the US and the US government?
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>>Everything they're accusing TikTok of - from data harvesting to the government having access to said data - is true for western companies as well and that should be the problem The thing is, yes Facebook and Google's data collection is horrendous, but TikTok it literally on another level. Quite a good explanation here: https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/fxgi06/comment/fmuk...
From Reddit: > Phone hardware (cpu type, number of course, hardware ids, screen dimensions, dpi, memory usage, disk space, etc) > Other apps you have installed (I've even seen some I've deleted show up in their analytics payload - maybe using as cached value?) > Everything network-related (ip, local ip, router mac, your mac, wifi access point name) > Whether or not you're rooted/jailbroken > Some variants of the app…
The proxy server is disturbing if true. Only reason I could think of that being necessary would be to use customer devices to perform distributed transcoding of other people's videos. Can't imagine that being something Apple would allow.
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>> I want USA to do whatever it needs to be the top player > Are you sure? Would you rather have someone else / some other country (other than the US) be the hegemon? If so, who? And are they willing to do it?
Perhaps it would be better if nobody was the hegemon eh?
But this is just an examination of practical reality. Ideally we wouldn't have a hegemon. Ideally maybe we wouldn't have countries either.
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You realize vast swaths of China’s population are pretty much rural farmers living of less than $5,000 per year right?
The poverty rate in US is ~14%, that's tens of millions of Americans living in poverty. Comparing incomes directly doesn't help, how much can $5k buy you in China vs how much can the poverty level income buy you in US?
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The poverty rate in US is ~14%, that's tens of millions of Americans living in poverty. Comparing incomes directly doesn't help, how much can $5k buy you in China vs how much can the poverty level income buy you in US?
Okay, let's assume there's total economic equality between Americans and Chinese. In China if you're the wrong religion they put your men in prison camps and assign a rapist to sleep in bed with your women and indoctrinate them into the communist party. If you are in prison, China will murder you and sell your organs. In China the labor conditions are so bad they have to install "suicide nets" in factories because so…