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Re: US quietly urges more use of Russia fertilizer to ease food crisis

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Post by trasz »

jacobolus wrote: post #413
ghostwriter wrote: post #397

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> In the US where free speech is protected, those who made various claims and conspiracy theories about the September 11 attacks (Bush did it! Israel did it! The CIA did it! etc.) didn’t get locked up or murdered Only, for some reason the free speech protection did not help Assange from being prosecuted and his life being destroyed for broadcasting US war crimes evidence in Iraq [1]. The same could be said about your…

Assange was arguably mistreated by US law enforcement, but he never went on trial for the crimes he was accused of because he instead fled (to spend years on the run as a pathetic Putin stooge and apologist). If he ever is successfully extradited to the USA, he will be afforded the same protections of the law as any other accused person. He will face a trial by jury, and have access to an attorney. The prosecutors wi…

You are ignoring the existence of secret FISA kangaroo courts.

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Post by sha256sum »

LewisVerstappen wrote: post #73
sha256sum wrote: post #60

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It's important to note the money drip from Afghanistan has been cut off, with manufacturers looking for more ways to drain tax money away from domestic projects and into the war machine, a status quo since at least Vietnam.

It is literally the exact opposite. Escalating the war in Ukraine by going "all in on sending howitzers, MLRS and other heavy equipment" is exactly what the defense companies want . It's genuinely amazing to see the mental gymnastics here to come to the conclusion that buying fewer weapons is exactly what the defense contractors are lobbying for.

Eh, re-read the comment--I'm agreeing with you. I'm saying they want that status quo, without war they don't sell weapons. But interestingly enough someone did attempt those same gymnastics.

Re: US quietly urges more use of Russia fertilizer to ease food crisis

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cpursley wrote: post #350
juve1996 wrote: post #346

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It takes infrastructure to move natural gas. They can find customers - but can they get that NG there? Not right now they can't. And there are material shortages everywhere - it will take a long time and it will be more costly in the long run than their European markets. Tensions are already rising between the Saudi's and Russians, who are frustrated with Russia's drop in output since the war started. This will only…

You made my point for me regarding moving natural gas. EU is 5+ years from a Russian gas replacement (oil/gasoline, sooner). Regarding debts, the Russian federal debt is one of the lowest in the world. Google/Yandex it. And as for the citizens, yeah - no more BMWs or iPhones (just kidding, those will come from Kazakhstan and Armenia at a markup)...

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Re: US quietly urges more use of Russia fertilizer to ease food crisis

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Post by jacobolus »

trasz wrote: post #421
jacobolus wrote: post #413

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Assange was arguably mistreated by US law enforcement, but he never went on trial for the crimes he was accused of because he instead fled (to spend years on the run as a pathetic Putin stooge and apologist). If he ever is successfully extradited to the USA, he will be afforded the same protections of the law as any other accused person. He will face a trial by jury, and have access to an attorney. The prosecutors wi…

You are ignoring the existence of secret FISA kangaroo courts.

I think they have serious problems, but FISA courts oversee warrants for wiretapping foreign spies, not extrajudicial murder of dissidents.

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Post by klibertp »

baybal2 wrote: post #403
klibertp wrote: post #399

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I just checked: only Moldova is left that's not in NATO and in place where Russians could march to (but they would need to get the western Ukraine first). Poland, Slovakia, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia are all under NATO nukes protection; Sweden and Finland will join shortly. Are you sure Putin - and all the people around, at the same time! - are insane enough to risk eradication of all its cities? Nuclear weapons chan…

Yes, because he isn't afraid. He attacked because of once in a lifetime perfect storm: USA maxing out its credit card, CoVID, China hunkering down, Molotov-Ribbentrop 2.0 with Germany, highest access to Western lobbyists it ever had, Turkey in turmoil, and so, so, so. He will not let the West to recover. Were his 200,000 troops to march into Poland instead of Ukraine in February, the entirety of NATO in Europe would'…

> Molotov-Ribbentrop 2.0 with Germany

Damn right you are (not in the literal sense of a secret deal, but the effects are similar). IMO Germany bears the most responsibility for this situation, on par with Putin himself. Ukraine was screwed big time by German diplomacy and their ambiguous stance. That Ukrainians still want to belong to the West is a miracle. Once the war is over, they should, and I think they will, start asking questions about all the "NATO membership is on the table, the doors are open" alternating with "well, you'll need to wait some 20 years to get past the doors anyway". I sincerely hope this will weight on the conscience of Germans enough to substantially lessen the amount of money they will demand from Ukraine for the support they (reluctantly) are showing now.

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Post by lesuorac »

tomp wrote: post #234
lesuorac wrote: post #182

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> sufficiently bizarre local sources of energy What's this bizarre local source of energy that Greenland has that apparently nobody else does? There's water and fossil fuels in the rest of the world too ... https://www.worldometers.info/electricity/greenland-electric...

Oops Greenland was wrong, I meant Iceland.

Well I'm pretty late at this point but what I was trying to get at is really w/e another country has the US has as well.

There's fault zones, hot springs, fossil fuels, water, sun, wind, etc in the US. If your house has radon gas then you also have uranium.

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Post by hintymad »

alphabettsy wrote: post #402
hintymad wrote: post #295

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Not issuing drilling licenses? Besides, there is, or so I heard, so much political pressures that drilling has become a high-risk business that those companies either can't afford insurance or can't get one.

There are like more than 10,000 unused licenses right now. And drilling licenses are still being issued. Which is kinda beside the point because it’s refinement that’s the biggest issue right now.

Yeah, you're right. Just saw on Youtube that a Biden aid, Brian Deese, said they are not blocking expanded oil and gas production but killed refinery expansion, preventing 1M+ acres of oil/gas leasing. Per him, "I guarantee you, we're going to end fossil fuel & I am not going to cooperate them". It looks they are taking a long term view, and I hope the execution will be smooth: we can manage short-term increased cost while figuring out a way to keep the planet for our children".
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