So it looks like that all the assholes actually were immediately promoted to management positions, everyone else became a worker.
IBM's Asshole Test
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#422Decades ago, in the days before uber, my employer would fly in candidates from college campuses as part of an onsite interview. The candidate would fly in the night before and we relied on a taxi service to bring the candidate to the hotel. Then in the morning the same service would bring them to the onsite and of course bring them back to the airport at the end. It was a whole curated process. Little did the candida…
There's a saying among musicians: "Be careful of how you treat the people you meet on your way up, because you'll meet them again on your way down."
That's not just musicians who say that. My mom says that.
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#424Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem is that you're thinking in absolutes. That's not how life works. The driver doean't need to be a formal part of the hiring process that everyone rigorously goes through. There's variation and difference for every candidate. That's just because hiring is a human process. In this case just knowing the driver well enough to ask them "Was that person nice to you?" when they drop a candidate off gets you anoth…
> a positive "they treated me like a human being" or a negative "no, they were rude" That's the whole range eh?
> A lot of the time it'll be "they were OK", but occasionally you'll get[...]
Missed this first half of the sentence.
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#425The other group goes to the Sales team.
I have no proof, but after dealing with them for 25 years, I have no doubt.
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#426Earlier quoted context omitted.
No it wasn't. Source: I conducted +400 interviews for Amazon. We don't do weird or obscure tests. Your recruiter will explicitly tell you what to expect. It sounds like a mistake.
The second part of the story is I got hired, but not for the job I was going for. Instead, they asked me to manage the whole team. Note that this was in 2014 and outside of the US, so our experiences may vary. As a hiring manager at AWS I conducted similarly many interviews, and can speak to a few things. Firstly, there was plenty of latitude for me to include additional factors in the process, as long as the core el…
If it was a while ago things might have been different. Not sure if you are around anymore but there is a continuous push for standardization. There is also a big emphasis on candidate experience lately.
I also believe in adding a personal touch to the interview process, but I don't believe in mind games. To me this would fall in the same bucket as "let me mispronounce your name on purpose and see how you react" or "let's give the candidate the wrong directions and let them figure out the way". You could frame it the other way around, what if it goes wrong? at best you lose some valuable interview time and annoy the candidate, and doesn't tell you much about how good they will be at the job.
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And I'm sitting here wondering how people have bad interactions with flight attendants? Literally 90% of the words I say to them are: Hello, how are you. Thank you. Yes, water please. Have a good day. I think I asked once for a pillow (usually on Redeyes they hand them out) I've never had a fight attendant decline my request, or complain about it...
Most common thing I say is "Enough with the damn credit card ads." Abusing safety equipment to abuse a captive audience should be a crime.
I haven't flown since 2018. I don't get the context.
Are the cc ads part of the safety video, or on the life preservers?
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Was told if you interview with the FBI, the interview starts the moment you go through the door. And be careful what you say at the bar.
Which door? In this case OP seems to have outwitted the FBI, since the candidate is being surveiled the moment they left their own home.
A thought.
US agencies but private corporation's data on people, such as the CDC recently, on mobile phones.
With livingrooms bugged via smart TVs, and virtual assistants(alexa, etc), leaving the house may not be necessary.
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#429Earlier quoted context omitted.
No it wasn't. Source: I conducted +400 interviews for Amazon. We don't do weird or obscure tests. Your recruiter will explicitly tell you what to expect. It sounds like a mistake.
> weird or obscure tests. I'm a bit relieved to hear this: one of the weirdest professional experiences I have ever had was at an AWS interview. I've often wondered which parts of that day were a psych test or simply human error. Timing of the interview was shortly before the HQ2 announcement (2017 I think), and the interview was in the outskirts of DC. I was told specifically not to bring a phone, which I thought wa…
That's unfortunate. The fact of the matter is that Amazon interviews thousands of engineers each month, so statistically there will be pretty bad experiences every now and then. I personally like to read candidates feedback every now and then and you can find some horror stories in there. Also unfortunately not everyone is a good interviewer and this can also impact your personal experience.
If you'd like to share what those "this seems off" situations where I'd love to hear that.
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#430Earlier quoted context omitted.
> a positive "they treated me like a human being" or a negative "no, they were rude" That's the whole range eh?
> A lot of the time it'll be "they were OK", but occasionally you'll get[...] Missed this first half of the sentence.
So our range is somewhere around:
- They were OK
- They treated me like a human being
- They were rude
There's no room for "We had an interesting conversation" or "They gave me some good advice" or "I think I made a new friend"? Not even "They seemed like a good person"?
The maximum is "They treated me like a human being" which is somehow above "They were OK"?