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Rocket Mortgage to trim 8% of workforce as home-loan market shrinks

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Re: Rocket Mortgage to trim 8% of workforce as home-loan market shrinks

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Our bank sold our loan before the first payment even came due. That said, they were phenomenal during the whole origination process, and they gave us a rock bottom rate (2.375%). My only fear is servicing being transferred multiple times, rapidly, then having to decipher who to pay now.

The banks are really surprisingly good about forwarding payments, I found that a mortgage had been sold months before but the autopay from my bank kept working; it wasn't until I went to login that I realized it had been sold off.

So it isn't so much about the mortgage being sold, but whether servicing is transferred. If servicing is kept them the servicing bank forwards your payments onwards.

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I grew up in Chicago and love Chicago, so I'll try to say this as politely as possible - don't expect your property to hold any value in IL. Anecdata - I have friends that lived there for 8+ years, then moved to the south in the last 2 years and their property value barely budged.

So what you're saying is, Chicago property is staying relatively affordable for people who want to buy a home and live in it?

Quite the opposite - property assessments and taxes keep going up. Chicago just captures increases in housing prices in taxes.

Not necessarily a bad policy, imo, but doesn't make buying cheaper.

Re: Rocket Mortgage to trim 8% of workforce as home-loan market shrinks

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I won't feel one ounce of pity for the "investors" who lose their shirts when this bubble finally pops. We should regulate investors almost entirely out of housing. Yes, there is still a need for people with lots of capital to go in and repair dilapidated homes. But we don't need people hoarding homes and renting them out as AirBnbs.

Is it a bubble? Where is the irrational exuberance? Lots of people need homes, there aren't enough, prices go up. And investors hoarding equity by forcing people to rent have a captive audience. Both of those aren't really tulip/crypto hysteria. It's just a shitty situation.

I would love to see investors get burned too, but I don't think there's anything to pop. We're just a decade behind Canada.

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Seems like the bubble burst is going to be more sudden than we thought. 30 year mortgages are suddenly at nearly 5.5-6%, listings are sitting on the market for longer, and multiple cities are cracking down on Airbnb.

Sure, but there’s still no supply of homes. There are presently 2 houses for sale in my neighborhood of about ~750 homes. I don’t have historical data, but 0.002% seems very low for spring.

Re: Rocket Mortgage to trim 8% of workforce as home-loan market shrinks

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I won't feel one ounce of pity for the "investors" who lose their shirts when this bubble finally pops. We should regulate investors almost entirely out of housing. Yes, there is still a need for people with lots of capital to go in and repair dilapidated homes. But we don't need people hoarding homes and renting them out as AirBnbs.

I have seen AirBnB referenced many times in these comments as having something to do with the increase in home prices. From what I can find there are 660,000 AirBnB hosts in the US; this was found under the Airbnb Statistics by Region section from here https://www.stratosjets.com/blog/airbnb-statistics/ seems to also be found here https://ipropertymanagement.com/research/airbnb-statistics. Most likely both of those take their data from some other source which may or not be up to date.

A little bit of Googling around seems to indicate that there are ~95,000,000 single family homes in the US. So all of those AirBnB's represent less than 1% of all homes. If all of those AirBnB's were in a given year they may have an impact on purchase prices. Yet these purchases have been spread out over many years which leads me to believe their impact is negligible as a driving force in price appreciation. Are they a player, sure, are they a big player.....probably not nearly as much as people think.

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they put up a non-adult to do these transactions? what the hell?

Why do you think that person wasn't an adult?

Because it is very odd framing, to say the least, to refer to someone in a professional context as a "girl."

Re: Rocket Mortgage to trim 8% of workforce as home-loan market shrinks

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I won't feel one ounce of pity for the "investors" who lose their shirts when this bubble finally pops. We should regulate investors almost entirely out of housing. Yes, there is still a need for people with lots of capital to go in and repair dilapidated homes. But we don't need people hoarding homes and renting them out as AirBnbs.

It's somewhat fashionable for well-off people/families to have a vacation home somewhere vacation-y. Before Airbnb, most of those homes just sat vacant for most of the year[0]. Clearly, that's not a great use of that land. Often these sorts of properties would be in pretty desirable locations, and doing it this way would deprive most people the use of that space.

Certainly there are still some people who are wealthy enough to keep their vacation homes vacant most of the time (and prefer it that way, since doing short-term rentals tends to involve quite a bit of wear-and-tear on a house and its furnishings). But many list on Airbnb now. I consider this a net positive for society.

Of course, Airbnb isn't all roses. In many places, investors buy up housing stock that would otherwise be used for long-term rentals, and deprive locals of much-needed stable housing. My guess would be that this is even -- unfortunately -- the primary use of Airbnb these days (I doubt they are primarily people renting out a room in their already-occupied house anymore). So this does suck.

On the renter side, I've found a lot of great places to stay through Airbnb over the years, experiences hotels just can't provide, and often prices hotels can't match. Should I just not be allowed to have these sorts of experiences? (It's totally fair if the answer to that is "yes", as much as it'd be disappointing.)

Can we find some sort of balance so that we can curb most of the negatives that come with real-estate investing, but keep most of the positives?

[0] Yes, vacation rental companies existed before Airbnb, but Airbnb completely changed this space.

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Yes, here 2 and 5 years is the norm. There's talk of longer terms becoming more popular but that's probably just talk due to the current climate of rising rates. I've spoken to a few brokers lately and not one even mentioned anything longer than 5. It feels like there's a few signs now that the so-called "18-year property cycle" is due to be cut short this time around. I've only recently heard the idea so I'm not sur…

7 and 10 years are quite widely available now, although they're still not particularly popular. Not sure why brokers didn't mention them to you. Perhaps they like to show people low headline rates, or perhaps they see longer initial terms as bad for the broking business?

IME we had other confounding factors reducing the number of lenders available to us. It might be that they just didn't offer it.

Re: Rocket Mortgage to trim 8% of workforce as home-loan market shrinks

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I won't feel one ounce of pity for the "investors" who lose their shirts when this bubble finally pops. We should regulate investors almost entirely out of housing. Yes, there is still a need for people with lots of capital to go in and repair dilapidated homes. But we don't need people hoarding homes and renting them out as AirBnbs.

I have seen AirBnB referenced many times in these comments as having something to do with the increase in home prices. From what I can find there are 660,000 AirBnB hosts in the US; this was found under the Airbnb Statistics by Region section from here https://www.stratosjets.com/blog/airbnb-statistics/ seems to also be found here https://ipropertymanagement.com/research/airbnb-statistics . Most likely both of those…

95 million homes total, or available homes? Seems like it would make a difference. That said, I suspect you're right that AirBnB is less responsible for driving up housing prices than, say, the fact that the pace of homebuilding hasn't recovered since 2008.

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If millennials were not buying homes at similar rates to their parents, the home ownership rate would be declining

More people are investing in real-estate, and less millenials are buying.

Millennials made up 43% of home-buyers in 2021, the largest of any generation. That's up from 37% in 2020.

https://www.nar.realtor/newsroom/nar-report-shows-share-of-m...

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