The Realtek Ethernet is know to cause issues. Based on reports on various Mac forums the most reliable option for Ethernet is Apple's own Thunderbolt adapter which uses the Broadcom BCM57762. For current Macs it needs to be used in connection with the Apple's Thunderbolt 2 to Thunderbolt 3 adapter.
USB-C hubs and my slow descent into madness (2021)
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Re: USB-C hubs and my slow descent into madness (2021)
#422Thunderbolt based products should almost always be better than USB. TB controllers are higher cost and there is a certification process for TB based products. One of the key values of TB is providing a consistent product that just works with other TB products. The downside of TB is that because of the higher costs, fewer manufacturers build TB based products. USB and the ecosystem is a complete mess. The naming syste…
That's why I am currently on a minimalistic (almost passive) USB-C dock... it has PD 65W passthrough, DisplayPort passthrough and USB 2.0 + 100Mbit ethernet (those are the limitations).
like this, but DP only (was cheaper, but currently unavailable):
https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Matters-Multiport-Adapter-Display...
Re: USB-C hubs and my slow descent into madness (2021)
#423I'm currently waiting to get a Dell UltraSharp 27" 4K U2723QE delivered. It's ~$630 and has a USB 3.2 Gen2 Hub: - HDMI 2.2 - DisplayPort 1.4 Input - DisplayPort 1.4 Output - USB-C Upstream (PD 90W + DP 1.4 Alt Mode) - USB-C Upstream (KVM) - USB-C Downstream - 5x USB-A Downstream - Audio line-out - LAN (RJ-45) As far as I can tell it has the best connectivity and specs of any mainstream consumer monitor under $1k. It…
I've got that one at a steep discount. Works great on a MacBook using 1 USB-C cable for charging, network and display. The only downside is on laptops without Displayport stream compression there's not enough bandwidth for 4k@60Hz and USB3 5Gbps so you have to choose 30Hz or USB2.
Re: USB-C hubs and my slow descent into madness (2021)
#424I wonder how much e-waste this USB-C bullshit idea generated. It's not even a one-off, "early adopter" problem, considering that even now it's hard to buy something that actually works and you have to churn through many attempts before getting lucky. In contrast, I can't remember the last time I bought a USB-A, HDMI or Ethernet cable/peripheral that didn't work, partly because those specs are self-contained and simpl…
Yeah, a perfect example are all the people in this thread recommending Thunderbolt devices while a bunch of us sit here and type away on our Ryzen or Threadripper powered machines. USB-C has been such a massive disappointment.
The real disappointment is Intel who have kept an iron grip on Thunderbolt for way over a decade and prevented everyone from distributing Thunderbolt without an Intel CPU for no technical reason at all.
Re: USB-C hubs and my slow descent into madness (2021)
#425I have an old macbook but I really like the idea to have a single cable connected to a hub where everything plugs in and your laptop charges. I just wonder whether the usb-c style connector really is suitable for it? It seems like it could disconnect easily and what about the wear?
Re: USB-C hubs and my slow descent into madness (2021)
#426Earlier quoted context omitted.
I live in a world overrun by capitalism and inundated with ads. The inescapable consumerism is sickening. That it’s the norm to run ads on practically every consumer product is absurd, and I feel gaslit that apparently everyone else is comfortable with it. We pay to remove ads from many services—why does my thousand-dollar bicycle still have a permanent billboard on the side? Have I not paid enough? Removing a logo f…
> The inescapable consumerism is sickening. Well, where do you buy USB hubs in a world w/o capitalism and consumerism?
Communist China, just like we do in this world.
Re: USB-C hubs and my slow descent into madness (2021)
#427Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If you use a laptop with an external monitor, a better idea is to get a premium monitor which handles charging, video, and data transfer of USB devices connected to the monitor for you. I made this mistake, and I ended up with a grossly overpriced monitor which fails to charge a MacBook Pro and whose video through USBC support is hit-and-miss, in the sense that it doesn't always work.
Look for monitors which advertise thunderbolt and a charging wattage. If it still doesn't work then just return it since it's defective.
> Look for monitors which advertise thunderbolt and a charging wattage.
I have no idea what led you to believe that someone searching for monitors that charge MacBook pros with thunderbolt did not checked if the monitor charged MacBook pros with thunderbolt.
Re: USB-C hubs and my slow descent into madness (2021)
#428I just checked the official Thinkpad USB-C dock model 40a9 and it's using the same rtl8153b chip.
Re: USB-C hubs and my slow descent into madness (2021)
#429Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have the TS3. It's been great BUT.... the Mac has not been great with it in the following ways. (1) I keep my MBP closed. It take 10-30 seconds for it to wake up on keypress. That's so long that I often have no way to tell if it noticed I pressed key. (2) If XCode is debugging and the screen sleeps then MacOS 12 never recovers unless I disconnect the cable, open the lid, get it wake up on the laptop monitor, and th…
Yeah, I kept running into docking problems trying to keep the lid closed as well. It seemed like it worked less than half the time. Worst-case I'd have to restart. Sometimes it'd wake up with no mouse or kbd working, other times my dual 4K60 monitors would be switched left/right, many times just...nothing... Pretty lame that one of the "best" laptop mfgs in the world can't make docks work right with one of the bigges…
By the way, there were bad problems with the TS3+, Intel MacBook Pro 13" 2020 and macOS 12.2 (no USB or Ethernet until reboot after unplugging and re-plugging), which were fixed in 12.3.
Re: USB-C hubs and my slow descent into madness (2021)
#430I have an old macbook but I really like the idea to have a single cable connected to a hub where everything plugs in and your laptop charges. I just wonder whether the usb-c style connector really is suitable for it? It seems like it could disconnect easily and what about the wear?
I've used a USB-C hub for years. It's great. One cable. No wear issues. Doesn't not disconnect without a tug. It's less robust than magsafe, so don't put the cable somewhere you're likely to trip over it.