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Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Post by ant6n »

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #372
throwaway894345 wrote: post #290

I really hope the world comes down hard on Russia with sanctions and support for Ukraine, but I’m afraid that so much of Europe depends on Russian gas that they won’t risk getting cut off. Which begs the question: how did Europe allow itself to come to depend so heavily on Russian energy? And how quickly can Russia pivot to buy energy from elsewhere (for a reasonable price)?

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A strategy to not be dependent on fossil fuels due to climate change and a strategy to not be dependent on fossil fuels from Russia align very well.

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Post by artem247 »

Kranar wrote: post #172
alins wrote: post #54

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I wouldn't expect many people here to know who John Mearsheimer is and honestly the conversation appears to be that you must unequivocally support what the U.S. and West in general have done or else you're some kind of Russian propagandist/puppet.

It is not a binary world. You absolutely do not have to support the Western interference in Ukrainian politics. You do not have to support Putin either. This is not good vs bad.

It is great powers exploiting weaker countries. Russia too did interfere a lot in Ukrainian politics, with methods similar to Western. It's like people live in a paradigm "West good/Russia bad" or "West bad/Russia good", yet miss the real picture - "West bad/Russia bad".

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Post by fuy »

forlorn wrote: post #136
osynavets wrote: post #115

Kharkiv, 25 miles to Russia. Just want to say that we are strong, we are confident about our army and I hope that everything will be fine. I'm sorry that I share content like this on this platform, but that's my reality

Stay safe, brother, my thoughts and prayers are with you. I'm Russian and wholeheartedly despise this outrageous war crime act of our so-called government.

+, Russian here. Putin will burn in hell. My thoughts are with Ukraine. Stay safe and fuck the war.

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Post by galaxyLogic »

Does Putin care about possible NATO expansion? Probably yes because he can't push NATO countries around so easily. And he really likes to push countries and people around to do what he wants them to do.

Think about it, he likes power so much that he has made himself the de facto dictator of Russia. People opposing him get murdered or jailed, or murdered in jail. He really likes power. He is said to be world's richest man. He loves money and power very much we can tell from his actions. If he can get more power he will take it.

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Post by raxxorrax »

nickpp wrote: post #92
Gatsky wrote: post #75

> "To anyone who would consider interfering from the outside: if you do, you will face consequences greater than any of you have faced in history. All relevant decisions have been taken. I hope you hear me."

The speech of a bully, of an aggressor. The only correct reply is a direct retaliatory attack on his offensive positions.

That is a fairly simplistic view and this certainly wouldn't have helped anyone.

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Post by nlitened »

kragen wrote: post #412
sillysaurusx wrote: post #352

I’m trying to help my programmer friend escape Ukraine. Since smuggling is a hack, I’d like to ask HN for suggestions on how to pull this off. His elderly father is being drafted. I got a DM from a mutual asking me whether there’s anything I could do for them. I have money but no knowledge of the country; they live there but have no money. During WW2, various affluent people helped smuggle Jews out of Germany. I’d li…

Are you in Ukraine? If not, how will you yeet cash at them?

Cryptocurrencies

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Post by suigetsusake »

csee wrote: post #100
jdrc wrote: post #82

how much support from russians does putin have for this kind of invasion?

Half of Russia supports an invasion. A minority is opposed. Was a poll

Those numbers seems to come from this CNN poll[0] with 1000 people of each country being asked the questions

[0] https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2022/02/europe/russia-uk...

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Post by ohwellish »

russian military never been in direct full scale fight with Ukrainian forces before till this morning, they have no idea where they got themselves into and what is coming to them - we will bury them all! every single one of them

Our time to fight back has come - Glory to Ukraine! Слава Україні!!!

update: dont get me wrong, true Russians are against this war, I have alot of friends in Russia and they ALL sending me messages of support - мы поможем вам стать свободными, братья!

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Post by vkou »

ironcurtain wrote: post #317
Osiris wrote: post #171

This whole action makes no sense to me. I do not understand Putin's motivation here. I can't see an economic or political justification. The only reason I can think of is that he just yearns for more power regardless of the costs. Can anyone provide any possible reasons Putin would have for doing this?

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It's historically accurate, but also entirely irrelevant. All that history is just an excuse.

The reason the Russian government is prosecuting this war is because it is afraid of encirclement. Ukraine's politics shifted westward, which is what prompted it to act.

The changes in language laws, the history, and all the other baggage is just an incredibly convenient excuse that justifies the action. None of it, as an end itself, is enough for most right-thinking people to start a war over.

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