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AirPods don't “just work”

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Post by grp000 »

strogonoff wrote: post #315
openknot wrote: post #265

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>The mobility, flexibility and convenience of no tangles and accidental wire pulling and causing phone to drop - all worth it. You can thread the wired headphone/IEM cord under your shirt, or even over your ear and down your back [0] to prevent tangles and wire pulling that causes a phone to drop. It's less convenient than wireless earphones, but it solves the problem, and comes with advantages (better noise isolatio…

Having cycled through WH1000XM3, XM4, AirPods Pro, I am back to my trusty Shure SE215 that I use wired. — They never deafen me with connected/disconnected sounds (which can never be configured quiet enough) or music briefly playing at insane volume after switching or connecting. — I know I get the source quality. — I would never lose one randomly (always a chance with “true wireless” models). — I don’t get weird phas…

As far as their SE215 model goes, the sound, isolation, and ergonomics are great, but I've always had issues with the cable breaking at the ear curve next to the connection point to the earbuds.

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Post by The_Colonel »

munk-a wrote: post #335
DangerousPie wrote: post #295

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Sure, you can work around the limitations of wired head phones. But at the end it's just not worth the trouble for many of us. I ditched my wired head phones years ago and haven't regretted it.

Or you can work around the limitations of wireless headphones. At the end of the day both choices have advantages and consumers can freely chose one or the other (or both for different situations!) just so long as no manufacturer is stupid enough to remove headphone jacks from their mobile music devices we'll all be good.

It's a dying breed, but there are still many phones with audio jack. I don't think it will disappear completely.

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Post by cush »

dt2m wrote: post #63

All valid annoyances, but I really think OP should try using another brand of Bluetooth headphones for a week just to get some perspective of how well AirPods "just work" compared to the competition. Manually having to re-pair once in every blue moon, one earbud playing while the other isn't, no automatic device switching without having to go through the Settings app everytime, A/V desync, dodgy mic quality, earbuds…

Bluetooth is such a fussy, unreliable protocol.

I’d love to have a new, modern protocol that simply requires some kind of basic, physical connection to pair two devices. That way, I’d always know exactly which two devices are connected and a third couldn’t break it so easily.

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Post by jyounker »

chasd00 wrote: post #300
FunnyLookinHat wrote: post #212

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This is exactly why I have the old-school style with a wire connecting them that sits on the back of your neck. I had my toddler rip an earbud out just once for me to realize that was a design feature I had to have. As an added bonus, I find they're way easier to throw on and off (just loop them around your neck and tuck them in your shirt) in between tasks. Something like this: https://en-us.sennheiser.com/headphone…

> I had my toddler rip an earbud out and then put it directly into their mouth right (airpods are the perfect choking size)? Yeah, i can totally see the need to have them attached together in that situation. heh what is it about toddlers that makes them constantly try to kill themselves.

Curiosity.

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Post by jdminhbg »

lowercased wrote: post #287
Nextgrid wrote: post #173

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I hope it works for the parent, but in my case even that doesn't work. Whatever extra protocol or other crap they introduced with this "automatic switching" feature is garbage and worsens the experience even if you disable the new functionality. The audio menu and connection/disconnection being slow as molasses is a new thing introduced by this change.

Yeah, doesn't work. "Connect to this iphone" in bluetooth settings.. Options are "automatically" and "when last connected to thi..." These don't even make sense as options, imo. What I think they're meaning is "automatically connect..." and the options are "automatically" and "when last connected". But.. if the software is broken, and it 'magically' connects when I don't want it to, then that will be the last time it…

“When last connected” is supposed to mean “if this phone is the last thing they were connected to when they were put away last time, connect to this phone when they are taken back out.” “Never” in that context would mean each time you put them in, you would have to go to your device and manually connect.

Of course if that’s not working, that’s a problem, but conceptually I think the options make sense.

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Post by germinalphrase »

lowercased wrote: post #305
stillblue wrote: post #117

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I read way too much of this comment before I realised you were joking. Got me good.

I'm not actually 100% sure I'm 'joking'. I think we'll see some in-ear haptic feedback stuff in a few years, which take a few more years to get 'right', and will be confusing as heck, but will be useful. If it's customizable, there will be a small but fervent ASMR community around it. It will be pitched as accessibility-friendly, helping people with hearing issues or other sensory issues just 'feel' indicators. Wire…

Having played around with very convincing binaural recording, I am all for subtle auditory haptics as an additional communication layer. I’d be surprised if it’s strictly coded rather than localized to specific objects/interactions within your specific environment.

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Post by iso1210 »

piaste wrote: post #256
KptMarchewa wrote: post #209

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WH-1000xm3 sound much worse when wired. They are made to use internal DAC.

That just means your phone's or PC's DAC is crappy compared to the internal one, and any other headphones would sound just as bad. I have an older pair of JBL E55, which are about 50% cheaper than yours, and on a modern phone they sound slightly better on wire than on wireless, presumably because their internal DAC is mediocre.

In theory they could use an ADC to convert the analog input to digital then run through the same DAC as bluetooth goes

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Post by 323 »

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #385
323 wrote: post #360

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Not talking about you since I don't know, but a funny thing I noticed, is that people who are very loud about saving the environment are always the ones with the latest iPhone 13 Max/Macbook Pro M1 in their hands one week after it's released.

Notice that you just went from "people don't really want it", to "it's not really feasible", all the way to straight up ad hominem.

It was a side point, because it's always very rich people with iPhone 13 Max which are like "poor people should use 10 year old phones, but not me, I can't be seen on gram with that, I need credibility so I can speak out about the climate"

Modular phones were tried and were a complete market failure. Because they sacrifice thinness, robustness and water proofing.

Older standards are removed because they are not used anymore, so the bandwidth is freed for newer ones.

And "people don't really want it" remains just as true. Just like people didn't want small screens, until even Apple famously yielded.

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Post by sdze »

FunnyLookinHat wrote: post #212
toyg wrote: post #177

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I agree, but the awkward "omg an airpod fell off after bumping into something/someone" is also a real thing. They should have an optional cord between the pair.

This is exactly why I have the old-school style with a wire connecting them that sits on the back of your neck. I had my toddler rip an earbud out just once for me to realize that was a design feature I had to have. As an added bonus, I find they're way easier to throw on and off (just loop them around your neck and tuck them in your shirt) in between tasks. Something like this: https://en-us.sennheiser.com/headphone…

in-ear will never work for me. I feel raped when I have to put them into the ear canal.

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Post by Zircom »

toyg wrote: post #177
yoz-y wrote: post #113

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Honestly, the fact that I no longer snag my earphones on random protrusions, like doorknobs and bus ticket validating machines is a bliss. Cables inside at a desk: sure, why not. Cables outside: hard pass.

I agree, but the awkward "omg an airpod fell off after bumping into something/someone" is also a real thing. They should have an optional cord between the pair.

Don't know if Apple sells them but they do make third party neck things that slip around the stems and are basically what you're asking for.
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