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Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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Post by nhoughto »

jodrellblank wrote: post #368
cardosof wrote: post #361

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A product manager with an MBA will argue this affects only a handful of customers, mostly non-paying, so fixing it should sit at the end of the backlog.

Is that wrong? How many outraged people here are going to stop using paid-for Google products because of this? (people who didn't stop using paid-for Google products for all the times this kind of thing happened before). It's approximately none, isn't it?

It’s a broken window. Is a perfect example of the craziness of the current state and approach that even the Everyman can understand and be surprised/question/have negative sentiment about.

The MBA thinking ignoring intangibles is exactly the problem, trading short term win for long term loss. Will it actually matter in the end? Probably not and the cycle will continue..

Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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Post by ComradePhil »

loudtieblahblah wrote: post #14

Protondrive is a thing. Zero knowledge storage needs to be the default everywhere.

As is Mega. I don't know why one would ever use Google Drive, OneDrive or Dropbox when Mega and Protondrive are available.

Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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Post by kofejnik »

amne wrote: post #258
JamesBarney wrote: post #220

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It'd be nice if the law had a escrow appeal process. Alleged violator now posts a $100 escrow, now accuser has to do the same. Then Google reviews it, makes a decision, and loser has to pay for it.

It should be the other way around. The claimant must "bet" $100 that he owns the copyright. Then the defendant can call the bluff and say "I raise $100000 that you do not in fact own this output04.txt file with a 1 in it". If the the claimant still thinks he can win he can call the $100k and prove ownership. Otherwise the defendant just made $100. How cool would that be?

Bloody brilliant, and of course will never happen

Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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Post by simonh »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #150
simonh wrote: post #148

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Cameras made it easy to copy things, so did printing presses, photocopiers and now computers. None of them have killed copyright, which is still functioning just fine. Musicians still sell music, directors still make films, the apocalypse simply isn’t happening. Yes there are occasional abuses, unfair YouTube takedowns and crap like this from Google. They must be fought, no argument there. Life will go on.

> Cameras made it easy to copy things, so did printing presses, photocopiers Not at massive global scales. Not at negligible costs. Not with complete impunity. Not in a way that was accessible to everyone.

You seem to be arguing that modern digital technology must by necessity drive a fundamental shift in the intellectual property economy that eliminates things like copyright forever. That simply isn't happening. It didn't happen to music, not to film and television, not even books. I'm a gamer and regularly buy games and supplements in PDF form, the hobby role-playing game market for indie games in PDF has never been stronger.

You can argue until you're blue in the face that what's happening right now is impossible, but it is happening. Look at the massive investment Amazon, Netflix, Disney, HBO and Apple are putting into streaming video. They are very successful businesses fighting over massive revenue streams. We're 20 years into the post-napster digital online revolution, and this is the way things have worked out.

Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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Post by mr_toad »

melenaboija wrote: post #287
discordance wrote: post #273

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Make sure to encrypt your 0’s and 1’s

I really want to think there is few people left out there leaving their 0’s and 1’s unencrypted in the cloud, I hope this post gets enough hype to solve the problem

Just encrypt the 1s. The 0s are nothing.

Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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Post by fsflover »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #363
vorpalhex wrote: post #105

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Buy hardware you can own. Stop buying Apple products.

The first and last Apple hardware I bought must have been over 15 years ago, a really thick 80 GB iPod with an actual hard drive inside it. I got rid of the Apple software and installed a custom OS on it. If I remember correctly, it was called rockbox. Now it's unthinkable that an Apple device would let me have this sort of control. What happened to Apple is what will eventually happen to all other manufacturers. The…

> What happened to Apple is what will eventually happen to all other manufacturers. They want to own us.

Not all manufacturers are the same: https://puri.sm/products.

Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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Post by MugaSofer »

PostOnce wrote: post #254
iameli wrote: post #75

All software has bugs; I'm not mad at all that this silly test case was flagged incorrectly. The truly infuriating part is "A review cannot be requested for this restriction." Translation: "We have no idea if you actually own this content or not, but it would be _way too expensive_ for us to find out for sure! So you're out of luck, but don't worry — it's all worth it so we can make sure children can't stream Marvel…

Disney robbed us, our children, their children, and possibly generations beyond that with their more-than-a-century copyright terms. I thought about posting this comment the other day and decided not to, but your mention of Disney+ stirred the idea in me again. We have so much modern media about Dracula, Sherlock, Cthulhu, etc, a thousand flowers bloom... new movies, new games, new art of all kinds. Disney & friends…

Kind of funny that you mentioned the Hobbit, given that half the fantasy genre is takes on LotR with the serial numbers filed off. So people have found some partial workarounds.

Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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Post by matheusmoreira »

Supermancho wrote: post #377
matheusmoreira wrote: post #352

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How are modern day conditions not unique? The printing press changed the world but it was huge expensive hardware and if you had one it meant you were a major industry player and therefore an easy target for copyright enforcement. Copiers were also expensive machines owned by businesses and they also worked with physical paper. There were inherent limits to the scale of any copying operation. None of this is comparab…

> The printing press changed the world but it was huge expensive hardware and if you had one it meant you were a major industry player and therefore an easy target for copyright enforcement. I do suspect you are thinking about the industrial revolution, which came centuries later. Like 1760+ The Gutenberg press was something that relatively poor could produce, over time, in pieces with basic carpentry and blacksmithi…

> Printing was manual before, which was slow and expensive. Within a century of "the press", the ability to read was nearly ubiquitous. This jump-started the Enlightenment period.

Copying and distribution was slow and expensive before. Not even a century after computers, the ability to copy was nearly ubiquitous. This jump-started the age of information.

Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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Post by mastazi »

I remember when it was announced that this was going to be possible and people here on HN were defending Google's decision with comments along the lines of "this is fine, they're not reading your private files, they're just going to stop people that use Google Docs for distributing pirated content"

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27858032

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