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Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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So what happens if you have Google Voice with a legacy Google Apps account? https://workspace.google.com/intl/en_us/pricing.html shows that Google Voice is a separate add-on from Google Workspace

It's still possible to port-out your Google Voice number for a fee. I wouldn't rely on keeping Google Voice after Google kills the legacy accounts. If you have to, port out to a different SMS service (you could port back in to consumer Gmail if you really wanted to).

Back when legacy accounts weren't legacy, Google Voice was free for G Suite (I think they are now called "unmanaged") and Google is trying to get rid of those accounts in favor of newer paid "managed" accounts.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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What are some (paid) alternatives to using G-Suite for emails? Context: We're a small but relatively old SaaS company. Been happily using G Suite's free tier since day 1 - only for email. This announcement is a tad disappointing, but as other commenters have said, 10 years of a free product is pretty great. We'll likely upgrade to Google's paid tier, but out of curiosity, since we're switching to a paid service, we m…

iCloud+ purelymail mxroute Migadu Mailbox.org

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I've heard that it's possible to strike a balance by self-hosting incoming email and outsourcing outgoing email to Amazon SES. SES provides SMTP credentials which should be fairly straightforward to use. Anyone has experience with this kind of setup?

SES for outgoing works pretty nicely, I don't think I ran into any gotchas.

You can use SES for inbound email receipt as well, but unfortunately there's no POP3/IMAP service (emails just get stored in an S3 bucket). However you can use a Lambda to forward inbound email to a personal email account: https://github.com/arithmetric/aws-lambda-ses-forwarder

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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What are some (paid) alternatives to using G-Suite for emails? Context: We're a small but relatively old SaaS company. Been happily using G Suite's free tier since day 1 - only for email. This announcement is a tad disappointing, but as other commenters have said, 10 years of a free product is pretty great. We'll likely upgrade to Google's paid tier, but out of curiosity, since we're switching to a paid service, we m…

IIRC migadu.com is $9/month, but that includes essentially unlimited domains and mailboxes (but only mail, nothing else, which seems to fit your use case).

Which means, if you like to set up new domains for specific projects, there's no extra cost (other than registering the domain of course).

Have never had a spam problem, but they stress that they don't consider themselves mission critical.

I went with fastmail for my personal email, after a small-ish provider I had used (and liked very much!) between 2001 and 2018 was unable for a few month, in 2018, to avoid getting my mails sorted by gmail into spam -- no delivery problems since mail. Alas, despite wishing to support the smaller players, silent non-delivery of emails is a huge problem.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Does anyone know of an email provider that will handle billing the users directly?

Shared pain as the rest, have been hosting email for people with the same last name since 1998, and migrated to G Suite for Your Domain in 2006, and they graciously increased the max users for the free account, and I have 147 users (almost all are active). From 1998-2006 I ran the email server, and it was a pain to deal with issues and complaints (mostly poor spam filtering). I can't go back to that, and I can't afford $10,584 a year to offer free email.

I've researched some other paid options, but my biggest issue is that I just can't deal with invoicing and collecting money from 140+ people. What I really need is an email host that will direct bill all the users. I don't mind paying for email as a service, I just need someone else to deal with all the money stuff from the other users.

For others assistance in research if you will be paying the bill for the full domain, here are some options I looked at: Google Workplace - $72/year/user - advantage being no impact on users Microsoft 365 - $60/year/user - less expensive, probably equal in quality to Google Fastmail - $50/year/user - cheaper still, great reputation Rackspace - $36/year/user - cheaper still, not best reputation Namecheap - $11/year/user - most likely a get what you pay for situation

Honestly I think email is worth $72/year, and I would go that route if Google would bill each user directly.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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People are talking about their purchases on Google play, but that's not the main point. All the web services where you used Google as the IdP are going to be toasted if you move. You will to go through all the services you use to see how to transfer your account there. It will teach me one thing: never ever use an external IdP and always create local account.

Some people learned this lesson few years ago, when Google started locking out accounts for whatever transgressions were punishable at the time.

Since I'm one of those people who prefer to learn from mistakes of others instead of mine, I never used Google, or Github, or other OIDC/SAML2/whatever provider as the IdP and always created local account.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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The bad thing isn't that Google wants me to pay for a service.

The bad thing is that some of us have no choice - or need a long day or two to migrate all the stuff.

I am a heavy Google Photos user who has shared a lot of albums. Also a lot of Android payments and much more.

For Google Photos, I can't export and import albums - only photos. So I would have to recreate the structure manually. This alone is a huge task.

If there is a "migrate to Gmail" button all is fine. But there isn't an easy solution.

I am now glad I had to create a private Gmail account for Stadia. But I also have to think about investing more money in games - or not.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I've got multiple domains on "G Suite legacy" which the admin console claims have been around since March of 2013. Given the article references December 6, 2012 as the date they stopped offering this I'm wondering if I somehow have a different product that wasn't sunset? The name is exactly what's referenced in this article, but I've received no notice, and I don't see any warnings on admin.google.com for these accou…

I'm pretty sure the date shown in admin.google.com is incorrect. For me it also shows March 2013, but in reality I've had it since 2010 - and I've got e-mails still in my inbox to prove it. The more disturbing part is that I, like you, haven't received any notice from Google themselves.

I haven’t received a notice either. I do however use Google as my domain registrar, and I purchase storage from Google. Is it even conceivable that either of those has spared me? Or is Google just lagging with its termination notices?

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same boat. I set up a Google domain for family many years ago. It's been somewhat convenient when it comes to sharing Google docs with each other and managing their email accounts for them, but that's about it. Everything else has been a continual pain in the ass. So many services are not supported by the custom Google domains or if we're lucky we get access years after they're introduced. It's always been remarkable…

I've dug into this through the documentation and in discussions with workspace support and its not as bad as we fear, at least in terms of purchases. If you cancel your workspace account, then the individual user accounts will still have access to non-workspace services [0], which importantly includes Google Play and all access to your purchases will be retained. Any other google services which aren't core apps will…

Do you have a link to this? Does this mean that say Google Play, Youtube Music, and Youtube will keep working but just limited in what it can do?
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