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Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by mike_d » Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 5:59 AM UTC

csdvrx wrote: post #393

mike_d wrote: post #202

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> Round-trip latency has a significant impact on TCP throughput. It's not just about time to first byte. I've built three CDNs in my career, one at the Tbps scale. Latency only has two factors in throughput: time to scale window size, and retransmits. Modern TCP stacks handle the prior just fine, and the latter is only an issue with packet loss. You can also turn on HTTP/3 and remove your reliance on TCP entirely. >…

> My offer still stands if you'd like a tour of a datacenter and see the sausage being made at scale. I might take you up on that offer, as I might need that for some new project I'm preparing. Where are you located?

Email is in my profile.

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by IvanK_net » Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 10:14 AM UTC

mmahemoff wrote: post #120

IvanK_net wrote: post #51

I was running www.Photopea.com with 10M page views a month for $40 a year. Now, I upgraded to $60 a month. I never used any CDN.

Looks good. FYI I tried to bookmark it with cmd-D, but the app has hijacked that combo!

Thanks! I wish we could detect all browser shortcuts, see https://twitter.com/ivankutskir/status/1422671831006392329

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by IvanK_net » Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 10:21 AM UTC

IvanK_net wrote: post #51

I was running www.Photopea.com with 10M page views a month for $40 a year. Now, I upgraded to $60 a month. I never used any CDN.

I would love to use a CDN. But I am afraid of things I do not fully understand, and I am afraid of making things too complex.

If I update a single file, how long it takes until nobody in the world can access the old version anymore? Does it take seconds / minutes / hours? Also, some files should not be cached at all (like PHP requests).

I am afraid it would take me days or weeks to learn everything and to cofigure the CDN properly, and I am risking being offline for a part of the world during that time. Also, if there is a problem at the CDN, my website would be broken, too. If someone could help me, you can write me at support@photopea.com

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by qeternity » Wed, Jan 12, 2022, 5:25 PM UTC

ju-st wrote: post #326

qeternity wrote: post #265

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Where? I'm talking about 10gbps transit.

HE.net is advertising "Get BGP+IPv6+IPv4 for $0.09/Mbps!" in public

Wow, but I suspect that's going to be for 100g.

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by kortilla » Sat, Jan 15, 2022, 7:56 PM UTC

cortesoft wrote: post #141

kortilla wrote: post #127

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Because cloud flare administratively centralizes a solution that was previously distributed. Guess what percentage of websites Cloudflare could take down in minutes if they decided? It doesn’t matter if cloudflare itself uses a distributed architecture. It’s a massive central point of failure/malice.

If cloudflare did that, then you do a simple DNS change and host your content somewhere else. You are ALWAYS going to be contracting with a third party to provide your connection to the internet... why is trusting cloudflare not to block you riskier than trusting your ISP or the data center that has your server?

> If cloudflare did that, then you do a simple DNS change and host your content somewhere else.

You missed the point. It’s an illustration of how much of the global internet cloudflare intermediates and can eavesdrop, filter. Guess how many tor users you fucked by putting cloudflare between you and them. Vpn users, etc.

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Post by kortilla » Sat, Jan 15, 2022, 7:57 PM UTC

jeppesen-io wrote: post #138

kortilla wrote: post #123

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> That's not terrible, but it was slow enough that I wondered for a few seconds if the site was broken. So what? Unless your website is offering some superficial junk that can easily be found elsewhere, you’re not going to lose a user. For something like photopea, there aren’t sub-second alternatives out there.

Almost a perfect quote of GM in the 80s when Japanese cars took over it's market share > For something like photopea, there aren’t sub-second alternatives out there. if there is't one now, there will be. Besides, with a little CDN and tweaking you improve your users enjoyment. Why not?

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