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Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?

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Re: Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?

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Post by ArchOversight »

persedes wrote: post #416
ArchOversight wrote: post #410

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I just got a new Vizio, I only connected it long enough for it download the latest firmware, and then neutered it by removing the Ethernet cable. You can bypass the acceptance of the privacy policy entirely and it just disables all the smart features (can't use any of the apps or cast to it with Airplay or Google Cast), but will still download firmware updates and install them. From the network capture I did on it, i…

Has Vizios software gotten any better? I had a 2019 model and the software (had mine offline/neutered too) was too shitty to even use it as a dumb TV. For example it would randomly reboot while we were watching something via the HDMI input or it almost always took multiple restarts to properly recognize the Vizio sound bar...

I got the new TV three days ago... I'll let you know once I've spent more time with it?

As of right now I have an Apple TV hooked up with my Vizio sounder and it all works really well. Have had no issues.

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antiframe wrote: post #387
1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #368

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Bluetooth on a phone can be disabled. I only turn on bluetooth when it is needed. Wired headsets and wired keyboards will work with some of today's phones.

That doesn't sound like a great user experience. "I have this TV that I want to use as a monitor, but I have to turn of a feature on my unrelated device which I want to use with a headset, keyboard, etc". I would rather buy a dumb TV that didn't require me to lose phone features.

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Re: Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?

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Post by brundolf »

Given the number of people in this thread who care about this stuff: does anyone have firsthand experience with the LG C1 when it comes to privacy, ads, dark patterns, forcing a WiFi connection, etc?

Been eyeing it as one of the better displays available right now

Fwiw I don't mind on-screen menus for even basic functions like some people seem to; I just don't want it doing anything nefarious

Re: Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?

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Post by duderific »

garmaine wrote: post #422
behnamoh wrote: post #397

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What are some better alternatives?

XBMC/Kodi, or AppleTV if you want a managed ecosystem.

AppleTV is not analogous to a Roku stick however, unless I'm misunderstanding. It is an app that already requires a connection to Wifi from the TV; Roku stick is what provides this connection. Additionally, AppleTV does not support Netflix or Disney+ among others. [1]

[1] https://9to5mac.com/2021/06/29/apple-tv-channels-services/

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Post by WithinReason »

jjoonathan wrote: post #242
KptMarchewa wrote: post #228

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Does autodimming work decently on C1? It's really bothering me when I try to use my CX as a monitor.

Agreed, auto-dimming is rough. I turned it off. 60% constant brightness for work, uncapped HDR mode for play.

How do you switch? Can you do it with just the keyboard?

Re: Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?

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Post by kwertyoowiyop »

bentcorner wrote: post #321
oblio wrote: post #231

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Even better, product placement. Your 5 year old is now magically holding BrandNewKoolAid™ instead of the original Coke. You grandpa has a fishing rod from BobsFishingEquipment®.

Oh god - there's the recent posts I've seen about people losing their social media accounts and then having deepfakes of themselves posting about BTC. But what happens when the platforms get into it themselves? Today using a loved one's image in a deepfake advertisement might seem invasive and wrong. But I wonder in the future if this would be seen as something acceptable. I'm sure somewhere there's a social media si…

You are definitely going to be proven right.

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Post by bradgessler »

cronix wrote: post #173

All TV's are dumb tv's if you only use them as an external display/monitor and don't connect them to the net. I have a dedicated computer for a media center and just use HDMI1 input on the TV. Never enter menus. Never update the OS. Never agree to anything. Never let the TV "phone home." Never set up wifi. Never connect a CAT5 to it. Set the input using the remote and forget it. Treat it as a dumb monitor. Computer i…

Kinda? You still have to wait for the TV to boot.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?

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Post by jjoonathan »

dragonwriter wrote: post #306
jjoonathan wrote: post #239

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In what world is a comparison "nonsensical"? They both displays pixels. Each can be substituted for the other with a modest amount of non-panel-related effort. They compete. We can compare them. > the same "tech", just to different specifications to fit their desired purpose/niche Clearly not. I am using a TV as a monitor right now, because 4k + OLED + HDR + 120hz was just not available for $1100 in the monitor space…

> TVs are always far ahead, monitors are always far behind. Your own description isn't of TVs being ahead in tech, but offering the same tech at a lower price point. (There often is some actual tech lag, for many of the same reasons, but it's much shorter.) > I'd rather not use a TV as a monitor because it's a PITA. I have to put up with substantial non-panel-related silliness to make this happen (turn the TV off/on…

> Your own description isn't of TVs being ahead in tech, but offering the same tech at a lower price point

I specified consumer TVs. You didn't read what I wrote, and then you decided to nitpick anyway.

> Usually, all of those except for the filters are effectively bypassed when using an input that supports CEC.

Yeah, I heard about that, but evidently it needs more work before it Just Works.

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