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Post by tsimionescu »

bmhin wrote: post #195
bduerst wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought the market has repeatedly shown there isn't much demand for persistent virtual worlds?

> the market has repeatedly shown there isn't much demand for persistent virtual worlds I don't know if you have a more narrow view of this idea or specifically mean VR/AR, but that just sounds like what massively multiplayer online (MMO) games such as Ultima Online, Everquest, and World of Warcraft are. I think Roblox is even a broader use case, though I am fairly unfamiliar with that. MMOs have been very viable fro…

MMOs live or die based on constant new content and even new mechanics, not persistent worlds.

There are some niche products with stable worlds, but those are a minority of a minority.

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Post by ajmurmann »

bduerst wrote: post #105
daviding wrote: post #36

If there is going to be a metaverse, I'm not sure I want Facebook to own it. It's like a bad sci-fi pulp story. Given their investment and research, I wonder if they should open it all up (even if contradictory to short-term gains in ad revenue) so it has a chance to grow? Federate it a bit more than they are comfortable with, to at least give it a chance. I could see this flubbing out hard otherwise. I'm personally…

I thought the market has repeatedly shown there isn't much demand for persistent virtual worlds?

"I've come to the insight that there really aren't any bad ideas at all. Only ideas at the wrong time.[not quite verbatim]" - Marc Andreesen

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Post by stale2002 »

swalsh wrote: post #206
vineyardmike wrote: post #158

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Why NFT? Why can't we just "import jpeg" instead of "link NFT"?

NFT's let you own digital assets. That means people can make a real living building them.

People don't have to pay for VR avatars when playing VRChat.

Forced monetization of all that, is a bad thing, not a good thing.

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Post by neither_color »

losvedir wrote: post #35

I suspect we will be awash in critical comments shortly, so let me just say I'm kind of excited about this. Don't forget that the internet was originally a military project. I'm excited to see a huge corporation going all in on VR and AR. It has the potential to be really interesting technology, and the research in displays, sensors, and other hardware and software won't go to waste. If "Meta" is the new ARPANET, I w…

Im excited for this too, Meta seems to be his passion project that he wants to be remembered for, and if he sticks to his word of opening up Oculus for easier development and letting you sign in without FB this will really take off. The comments here remind me of slashdot comments saying the iPod sucked because it had less storage than a zen nano and was overpriced, or the iphone would flop because business users needed a keyboard.

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Post by elliekelly »

ChildOfChaos wrote: post #270
CoolGuySteve wrote: post #231

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I wouldn't be surprised if the next gen Switch has a VR headset accessory and blows the entire market away the same way the iPod and NES did to their predecessors. The required parts to make a 60Hz 1080p headset are entering the $100 cell phone market and that segment of components are more or less what Nintendo traditionally uses in its handhelds. Nintendo also has a long history of "blue ocean" products that tweak…

Very unlikely we will see it from Nintendo, Nintendo have lacked innovation for ages, they just sell cutesy games to kids. They cornered the 'disney' market, don't expect them to do anything great from a tech perspective

I would imagine the Switch gyro controller must be pretty close to the tech needed to make VR games?

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Post by silisili »

acchow wrote: post #383
silisili wrote: post #179

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Not a chance. I've been wrong about a lot of things tech, probably even most things, but this isn't something I think most people want. Metaverses have always been niche. Most people don't like things attached to their head. Remember 3D TVs? But, perhaps you and they are right. For the first time in my life, I honestly feel like 'if this is the future, I want no part in it.' Please don't take this as like, suicidal o…

A common argument for why humanity has never encountered extra-terrestrial life is that any hyper advanced civilization likely moved into a virtual world. Do you believe this is unlikely and humanity is not headed in this direction?

I don't believe humanity or any civilization could survive. It's pure hedonism, really. How does reproduction even occur? And if everyone in the first world is plugged in, what keeps a third world nation from just taking everything? Or killing off the power grid? It would take a massive scale of agreement to even allow that to work.

Outside of that, I am a big believer in, well I don't know the name for it. But you must experience sadness to feel happy. And bad times to realize good times. Anyone in a virtual world would likely never choose scenarios that cause such things. So there'd be no real true joy in this virtual life. Life is fleeting.

From a health standpoint, I don't believe a human body could exist long in a pure virtual world(thinking of something like, The Matrix). Still people tend to get disease, blood clots, stroke, and more. And bones and muscle too weak to even walk when the grid goes down. Am I thinking about the scenario wrong?

Sorry I don't have all(or any) of the answers to that question, mostly just rambling, but the thought makes me really sad.

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Post by tdonia »

visiting a friend at a facebook office a few years ago, we walked by a small room near the bar cordoned off with caution tape. "oh, they're replacing the TV again, people keep using the oculus and smashing it by accident, has happened a few times" -- i can't help but picture that small, broken room today. #meta

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Post by endisneigh »

acchow wrote: post #383
silisili wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not a chance. I've been wrong about a lot of things tech, probably even most things, but this isn't something I think most people want. Metaverses have always been niche. Most people don't like things attached to their head. Remember 3D TVs? But, perhaps you and they are right. For the first time in my life, I honestly feel like 'if this is the future, I want no part in it.' Please don't take this as like, suicidal o…

A common argument for why humanity has never encountered extra-terrestrial life is that any hyper advanced civilization likely moved into a virtual world. Do you believe this is unlikely and humanity is not headed in this direction?

I've never heard of this argument. Can you point to any reputable scientist making this argument?
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