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Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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I stopped watching purely due to the Spotify deal. I was willing to give it a try until I saw that they were memoryholing episodes. I might be in the minority here but it felt like a betrayal. If he wanted more money he could’ve invested in his own platform like many others and people would’ve followed. There’s plenty of other content in the sea.

> memoryholing

Who talks like this??

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Comedian Bill Burr said it best: "I'm not gonna sit here with no medical degree, listening to you with no medical degree, with an American flag behind you smoking a cigar acting like we know what's up better than the CDC." [0] That quote is Joe Rogan's shtick in a nutshell. [0] https://youtube.com/watch?v=tSKVXl-WnrA&t=5m20s

the health experts a year ago said vaccines would make this go away, and before that they predicted that masks and social distancing would flatten the curve. With the exception of a few countries, none of that happened. At this ponit, I don't think anyone knows anything. due to rampant downvoting, I will respond to individual replies here: "This worked perfectly basically anywhere people actually complied. " Italy ha…

The hivemind is always right. Conform or suffer.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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For a long time he thought the moon landing was fake. That's not a position you arrive at with reasoned science and understanding how the world works. He's stated he thinks Bigfoot could be real. He does the same thing on a myriad of other topics. He presents some random quack as just as valid as real science. If he was just some random dude none of this would matter. But with 11 million followers, sometimes this "my…

He's quite literally the "average Joe" (at least when he started). The reason he no longer thinks the moon landing is fake is because of reasoned science and understanding which he learned through the course of the show by talking to guests like Neil deGrasse Tyson.

If you invite me for dinner at your house and I spend 4 hours forcing you to convince me the Earth is round, even if I emerge with changed views, are we really going to be good friends after that?

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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He’s always been up and down that road. I don’t agree with Joe on a lot of things but I don’t know that is his goal. If there is one thing that I think Joe does reasonably well- its to have you consider your stance and reasons for feeling that way. I think it’s healthy to reflect on why you take stances on things like politics, culture and religion. Joe admits that he is “a cage fighting commentator” and while I thin…

For a long time he thought the moon landing was fake. That's not a position you arrive at with reasoned science and understanding how the world works. He's stated he thinks Bigfoot could be real. He does the same thing on a myriad of other topics. He presents some random quack as just as valid as real science. If he was just some random dude none of this would matter. But with 11 million followers, sometimes this "my…

What does understanding about how the world works have to do with the validity of a moon landing?

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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> I do think he genuinely is looking for the best ideas. I lean more towards he’s looking for affirmation to be contrarian just for the sake of being contrarian. If he was looking for the best ideas, he would of had a completely different set of guests.

I suppose that is possible, but I dont really find him overly contrarian and a lot of his views are relatively centrist to slight libertarian. I will say I think he looks for folks that he jives with more than most qualified for the subject. But really Im not here to defend Joe and honestly have not found a lot of compelling guests of late on his show. I just dont think he is as bad as he is sometimes made out to be.

I think his defenders are mostly people like you; people who are fundamentally dishonest assholes.

They like Joe because he is also a fundamentally dishonest asshole.

As evidence, you say you are not here to defend Joe, but you wrote multiple posts defending Joe. You’re a dishonest little asshole. Just like Joe.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Scratching my head what "S**" means

I assume "Sod", used in more British influenced cultures. Short for sodomy/sodomize. Usually a stand in for "F**" but a bit more cavalier/dismissive than angry.

That does sound spicier than placing tiles of vegetation.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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> Joe admits that he is “a cage fighting commentator” and while I think he self labels that way to sometimes get away with fringe viewpoints This is the same way John Stewart and Stephen Colbert hid behind, "I'm just a comedian." It's a great strategy if you can pull it off.

I actually think Rogan's approach is exactly the opposite of Stewart and Colbert (S&C). S&C would critique news organizations for failing to provide counterpoints. They would also earnestly advocate for their own views without feeling the need to provide counterpoints. Their justification was that they were entertainment - they believed what they were saying and didn't feel like they needed to properly inform on ever…

Joe holds and promotes many extreme beliefs but wants plausible deniability.

The format he uses lets him do this, empowering everything from Ivermectin promoters to white nationalists, while allowing him to feign that he’s not doing that

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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This makes me wonder… would Spotify allow ads in music? Can I upload a music track that has an ad in the middle? Hmm…

I don't have Spotify, but check if The Who Sell Out is there since that has ads in it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Who_Sell_Out

Pretty sure they used fake ads, but it’s a good precedent anyway.

Edit: and yes the album is available on Spotify in full.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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I am a free speech absolutist. The answer to speech you don't like is more speech, not censorship.

I'm not… not anymore… after observing stuff like this. Like Joe, like some of his guests, like the results of how things have shaken out. Notably, free speech absolutism is impossible to refute if everyone is arguing in good faith. Since quite a few influential political actors are demonstrably not, and are following well-defined tactics dating back to various fascist regimes such as those who produced WWII, it is in…

The bottom line is I don't trust you to decide what should be censored. You don't trust me.

There is no workable censorship regime that does not devolve into ideological warfare.

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