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Post by TaylorAlexander »

azinman2 wrote: post #409
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #308

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Agree. Really not tooting my own horn but I qualified very early for the vaccine because I am a “farm worker” and while I really do work at a farm and all employees qualified early, I’m actually a robotics engineer with no necessary contact between me and those that tend the fields. I have an isolated office and I work alone. I felt that if I ever decided to get the shot because of my employment as a “farm worker”, t…

Here’s the thing: public officials created procedures with estimates based upon who qualifies. If you qualified and didn’t take it, you actually created inefficiencies in the system, and slowed down rollout. Source: friend in high up gov in CA

I’m one independent contractor doing engineering at one farm. I’d be surprised if I was even on whatever list was used to estimate what must be tens of thousands of farm workers in CA. In fact farm workers are so often undocumented they cannot have an accurate tally.

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Post by TaylorAlexander »

oblib wrote: post #400
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #353

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I’ve been extremely cautious with covid and I do not need to interact with the public beyond quick and careful grocery store visits. It would be better for a front line worker, who is not able to exercise the same level of avoidance, to get it than for me to have gotten it. I also do not live with any immunocompromised people - we are all healthy and under 40 and they work from home - so again it was better for someo…

I'll applaud what you did. Early on there was a very clear need for those at risk to be vaccinated and the guidelines for essential farm workers were pretty clearly meant for those getting food to tables who were working in close quarters with others. The odds of one of them getting and spreading it to many others were much greater for them than you, and that's what needed to be considered.

That’s right. I pass by several farms on the way to work and there’s a lot of people working in close groups and using shared housing. Thats who those shots are for. I show up to work at 4:30pm and work at a computer till 10 or 11pm. If all the tech workers were on some vaccine list for some reason I’d have done it, but I’m not the kind of “farm worker” those doses were intended for.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by azinman2 »

TaylorAlexander wrote: post #421
azinman2 wrote: post #409

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here’s the thing: public officials created procedures with estimates based upon who qualifies. If you qualified and didn’t take it, you actually created inefficiencies in the system, and slowed down rollout. Source: friend in high up gov in CA

I’m one independent contractor doing engineering at one farm. I’d be surprised if I was even on whatever list was used to estimate what must be tens of thousands of farm workers in CA. In fact farm workers are so often undocumented they cannot have an accurate tally.

I don't think it matters. They wanted to pipeline people, knowing that some would technically qualify but be lower priority, but efficiency was the most important thing. That and each person getting vaccinated means less risk to them, less risk to spread to others, and less risk to mutation.

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Post by anonytrary »

dang wrote: post #210

The submitted title was "Y Combinator kicks out Paul Biggar over a tweet". That is inaccurate, so in keeping with the HN guidelines (" Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize. " https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html ), I've replaced the title with the tweet text. That's the standard thing we do with titles, when people post Twitter links. Much as I'd love to,…

> Much as I'd love to, it's not my place to say why the original title was inaccurate, so I'll just remind you all that there are two or more sides to every story and not everything on Twitter is true.

You've always been a fantastic moderator, dang. To be honest, it's not your place to say anything on the matter publicly, especially not an insinuating comment such as that. The conditions of separation are private. A company can create pretext and other excuses as to why they separate with someone. The only conclusive answer is that there is no conclusive answer here, and there probably never will be unless OP takes legal action.

I think this won't be the first time that a techie underdog goes up against the YC crowd and is shut down by ridicule, legalese, and other platitudes. It's important to not censor those folks, and also important to not try and publicly denounce them in the way that you have. It will only work against YC. The underdog will always have something more interesting to say than the company. They will bide their time and come together. It's best for the company and its constituents to not comment on the matter at all, or post provocative content that encourages uncivil discourse.

I've seen a lot of YC companies doing this to their employees. I think it's going to backfire in a really ugly way in a few years.

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Post by chx »

systemvoltage wrote: post #317
mbgerring wrote: post #274

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So just so everyone has the full context: Oakland opened up its vaccination sites to more people on a shorter timeline than the rest of the state, in certain ZIP codes with disproportionately poor residents, in order to get vaccines to those disproportionately poor residents. I know this because this is how several of my friends who live in West Oakland got vaccinated ahead of the eligibility opening up in the rest o…

A friend of mine flew out from Zurich to CA to get a shot. They gave him one without checking anything. His response? “America has the best vaccine program on the planet. They have so many rules in Zurich that the confusion is holding things back. They’d rather throw away vaccines than break minor rules”. Vaccination should be easy, bureaucracy free and straightforward; especially now . I can understand age restricti…

> friend of mine flew out from Zurich to CA to get a shot.

I call BS.

Unless said friend is a US citizen, people who have physically been to the Schengen area have been forbidden to enter the US for quite a while now. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/from-oth...

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Post by TaylorAlexander »

azinman2 wrote: post #423
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #421

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I’m one independent contractor doing engineering at one farm. I’d be surprised if I was even on whatever list was used to estimate what must be tens of thousands of farm workers in CA. In fact farm workers are so often undocumented they cannot have an accurate tally.

I don't think it matters. They wanted to pipeline people, knowing that some would technically qualify but be lower priority, but efficiency was the most important thing. That and each person getting vaccinated means less risk to them, less risk to spread to others, and less risk to mutation.

I read the news regularly and the bulletins from the San Mateo County health advisor. During the time I qualified they were still running out of doses every week for front line workers. I am not a front line worker. It was not my place.

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Post by geekone »

dang wrote: post #345
serf wrote: post #316

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>not everything on Twitter is true >I'm sure you have a good point. I'm just not sure how to do it better. Probably without the allusion that the tweeter isn't telling the truth, to be blunt.

To say that the submitted title was inaccurate is already to say that.

I don't think the inaccurate title has much to do with the added color that the tweet could be a lie

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Post by pseudalopex »

chx wrote: post #425
systemvoltage wrote: post #317

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A friend of mine flew out from Zurich to CA to get a shot. They gave him one without checking anything. His response? “America has the best vaccine program on the planet. They have so many rules in Zurich that the confusion is holding things back. They’d rather throw away vaccines than break minor rules”. Vaccination should be easy, bureaucracy free and straightforward; especially now . I can understand age restricti…

> friend of mine flew out from Zurich to CA to get a shot. I call BS. Unless said friend is a US citizen, people who have physically been to the Schengen area have been forbidden to enter the US for quite a while now. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/from-oth...

Why not assume their friend is a US citizen?

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Post by stefantalpalaru »

dang wrote: post #392
duckfang wrote: post #385

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switch the letters of my username. that's what I think of you.

Oh yes that's clear, but it's also bloody clever and you get points for that. I'm sorry if my reference seemed like a swipe; I was just trying to speak duck with you. When people say this kind of stuff to me, I try not to take it personally because the truth is that you don't know me and I don't know you; what you're saying is not what you think of me , it's what you think of the image that you've constructed from a…

> When people say this kind of stuff to me, I try not to take it personally

Good. Ian Murdock took it pretty personally when you blocked him from delaying his suicide by venting out and crying for help.

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Post by dang »

slumpt_ wrote: post #397
dang wrote: post #356

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By the time something goes through this many twitterfilters, whatever non-petty quality it may have had to begin with has long been boiled away. It has become a self-licking ice cream cone of internet drama—something that certainly deserves the word 'petty'. Moreover, there was a long history of pettiness preceding this. We can't set aside your history because (a) you've been breaking the site guidelines repeatedly a…

Yeah, I understand you don't want to set it aside in general which is fine. I was only requesting you set it aside to entertain what I was saying in the above comment. And sure, happy to review the guidelines, all prior points aside. Though to be clear, the problems of this community go deep when a moderator is dismissing this kind of serious issue as petty drama.

Ah ok—I get your first point now and I respect that you disagree on the second. Thanks for the kind reply.
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